New TVR Carbon goodies

[Barry Gibb]

There is a company in blackpool making TVR carbon dial surrounds. Their ebay name is Space Composites who I'm sure made the body for that carbon/kevlar 5000M of Peter Wheeler. Looks nice!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TVR-Tuscan-T350-Tamora-Sagar...

[OatSy]

A bit pricey for something you don't need. And it will look out of place if it's the only carbon fibre on the dash. Nice looking piece of kit though

[blackiepaul]

OatSy said:

A bit pricey for something you don't need. And it will look out of place if it's the only carbon fibre on the dash. Nice looking piece of kit though

Don't need! Everyone needs one of those LOL, it would be rude not to get one.

[OatSy]

Why don't these people do proper carbon fibre stuff that we actually have a use for and will actually do something for the car. If someone came up with a carbon fibre rear diffuser/splitter for the Tam I'd be first in the que. Until then I'll carbon fibre wrap my clock surround for £10 Bling!

[V8 GRF]

OatSy said:

Why don't these people do proper carbon fibre stuff that we actually have a use for and will actually do something for the car. If someone came up with a carbon fibre rear diffuser/splitter for the Tam I'd be first in the que. Until then I'll carbon fibre wrap my clock surround for £10 Bling!

Why don't you contact them and ask them?

[iiyama]

Guys for anything carbon contact Marcus at creativecarbon.com.

This is my car, (yeah I know its not a TVR!!!!!):-



everything on it thats black is pre-preg carbon



Anything can be made for anything and group buys will drop the price.

Ian

[mikeinsheffield]

iiyama said:

[bobd]

Im sure the market would support wing mirrors, sagaris fins, gurneys,, front splitters, centre bonnet louvres and air duct intakes for t350 to name but a few, come on guys there must be a market out there.

[willtvr]

Why are we knocking a company producing TVR related items? I'm sure there is a market for parts that may have only an aesthetic appeal rather than being functional.

[iiyama]

Just as an aside, the product in the Bay auction does look to be well made. However just as a point of note. The text specifies that there is no laquer, the gloss finish comes from the use of a high quality mould. No problems there except for the fact that a good quality 2 pack laquer stops the epoxy going milky due to UV. Without UV protection ALL pre-preg carbon will discolour, so this part of the text is incorrect.

[blackiepaul]

bobd said:

Im sure the market would support wing mirrors, sagaris fins, gurneys,, front splitters, centre bonnet louvres and air duct intakes for t350 to name but a few, come on guys there must be a market out there.

I want everything mentioned above over the winter apart from I want a 1 piece bonnet made from carbon as well

[DonkeyApple]

OatSy said:

A bit pricey for something you don't need. And it will look out of place if it's the only carbon fibre on the dash. Nice looking piece of kit though

The standard plastic lets down the look and feel of the cabin. It's the one bit there that just looks tacky.

I think this is actually more needed than you think.

[TVRWazzock]

Barry Gibb said:

There is a company in blackpool making TVR carbon dial surrounds. Their ebay name is Space Composites who I'm sure made the body for that carbon/kevlar 5000M of Peter Wheeler. Looks nice!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TVR-Tuscan-T350-Tamora-Sagar...

Yeah, but can you sing !!!!!

[jimroyale]

iiyama said:

Just as an aside, the product in the Bay auction does look to be well made. However just as a point of note. The text specifies that there is no laquer, the gloss finish comes from the use of a high quality mould. No problems there except for the fact that a good quality 2 pack laquer stops the epoxy going milky due to UV. Without UV protection ALL pre-preg carbon will discolour, so this part of the text is incorrect.

Space Composites supply parts produced directly from the mould with A-class surfaces and have been doing so since 2006. In this time there have been no issues with UV. Ask Bentley, Blue flame etc. They have been using/selling these parts since 2006 with an in house developed process that only they have the knowledge of. Despite the above, the binnacle mentioned is not subject to high levels of UV. The designers at TVR where well aware that it was best to shield such elements from direct sunlight for safety and driving pleasure.

This begs the question as to what the motives, reasons and point is for comments such as those above. As for the earlier post about affordability, if you can't afford or justify it, then simply don't buy it.

My guess is that discerning customers whom have spent £30-£50K on a Sagaris might be in the market for a pre-preg carbon binnacle. Someone that has spent say £14K on a Tamora are quite a different proposition altogether.

Additionally, any part such as a Tamora diffuser can be produced in carbon. The question that remains is, is it going to be worthwhile for the company that spends money developing the part and producing tooling? For the reason stated above, my guess is that many Tamora owners can't afford to commission tooling. Maybe the tooling for the binnacle listed was commissioned by a Sagaris owner with considerable poke. An aluminium, polymer expansion tool doesn't come cheap. A soft tool able to produce a re-finished part is comparativley inexpensive.

[Landlord]

iiyama said:

Ooo, dats nice.

[DonkeyApple]

TVRWazzock said:

Barry Gibb said:

There is a company in blackpool making TVR carbon dial surrounds. Their ebay name is Space Composites who I'm sure made the body for that carbon/kevlar 5000M of Peter Wheeler. Looks nice!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TVR-Tuscan-T350-Tamora-Sagar...

Yeah, but can you sing !!!!!

No, but you can tell by the way he uses his walk he's a womans man with no time to talk.

[bobd]

blackiepaul said:

bobd said:

Im sure the market would support wing mirrors, sagaris fins, gurneys,, front splitters, centre bonnet louvres and air duct intakes for t350 to name but a few, come on guys there must be a market out there.

I want everything mentioned above over the winter apart from I want a 1 piece bonnet made from carbon as well

Can I see a second project coming to fruition as well Paul?
Spoke to your man today - excellent, knowledgeable and informative

second picture for me also at the moment

[iiyama]

jimroyale said:

iiyama said:

Just as an aside, the product in the Bay auction does look to be well made. However just as a point of note. The text specifies that there is no laquer, the gloss finish comes from the use of a high quality mould. No problems there except for the fact that a good quality 2 pack laquer stops the epoxy going milky due to UV. Without UV protection ALL pre-preg carbon will discolour, so this part of the text is incorrect.

Space Composites supply parts produced directly from the mould with A-class surfaces and have been doing so since 2006. In this time there have been no issues with UV. Ask Bentley, Blue flame etc. They have been using/selling these parts since 2006 with an in house developed process that only they have the knowledge of. Despite the above, the binnacle mentioned is not subject to high levels of UV. The designers at TVR where well aware that it was best to shield such elements from direct sunlight for safety and driving pleasure.

This begs the question as to what the motives, reasons and point is for comments such as those above.

Additionally, any part such as a Tamora diffuser can be produced in carbon. The question that remains is, is it going to be worthwhile for the company that spends money developing the part and producing tooling? An aluminium, polymer expansion tool doesn't come cheap. A soft tool able to produce a re-finished part is comparativley inexpensive.

Motive? Other then to point out pitfalls I have no motive at all. There are pre-pregs out there that are UV stable, but being UV stable has nothing to do with the mould quality, which is what the advert states. I agree entierly that high quality tooling, metal or carbon, will produce a product that does not require post-finishing, I havent said otherwise! In fact I stated in my original post that the binicle looks to be well made and of good quality.

Again you are right to say that the major cost with any of these products is the cost of tooling up. So if parts are required that are not already made, the the wise thing to do would be to get ten or more people together. Then the cost of the tool is more palatable to the company that has been chosen to do the work.

Edited by iiyama on Sunday 12th September 09:18

[jimroyale]

iiyama said:

jimroyale said:

iiyama said:

Just as an aside, the product in the Bay auction does look to be well made. However just as a point of note. The text specifies that there is no laquer, the gloss finish comes from the use of a high quality mould. No problems there except for the fact that a good quality 2 pack laquer stops the epoxy going milky due to UV. Without UV protection ALL pre-preg carbon will discolour, so this part of the text is incorrect.

Space Composites supply parts produced directly from the mould with A-class surfaces and have been doing so since 2006. In this time there have been no issues with UV. Ask Bentley, Blue flame etc. They have been using/selling these parts since 2006 with an in house developed process that only they have the knowledge of. Despite the above, the binnacle mentioned is not subject to high levels of UV. The designers at TVR where well aware that it was best to shield such elements from direct sunlight for safety and driving pleasure.

This begs the question as to what the motives, reasons and point is for comments such as those above.

Additionally, any part such as a Tamora diffuser can be produced in carbon. The question that remains is, is it going to be worthwhile for the company that spends money developing the part and producing tooling? An aluminium, polymer expansion tool doesn't come cheap. A soft tool able to produce a re-finished part is comparativley inexpensive.

Motive? Other then to point out pitfalls I have no motive at all. There are pre-pregs out there that are UV stable, but being UV stable has nothing to do with the mould quality, which is what the advert states. I agree entierly that high quality tooling, metal or carbon, will produce a product that does not require post-finishing, I havent said otherwise! In fact I stated in my original post that the binicle looks to be well made and of good quality.

Again you are right to say that the major cost with any of these products is the cost of tooling up. So if parts are required that are not already made, the the wise thing to do would be to get ten or more people together. Then the cost of the tool is more palatable to the company that has been chosen to do the work.

I never said that UV stability had anything to do with mould quality. You seems to have contradicted yourself though.

Edited by iiyama on Sunday 12th September 09:18[/footnote]

[footnote]Edited by jimroyale on Sunday 12th September 21:47

[iiyama]

I never said that you did bud, I said the advert did!