Chainsaw blade reshaping...
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Davi

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17,153 posts

243 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Managed to get hold of a chainsaw that runs brilliantly (starts first pull even!) but has a minor issue (presumably why it ended up at the dump...) in that it won't cut in a straight line! Looking at the chain I'd guess that it had been used to dig a small rockery up, but despite several runs through with a sharpener, still won't cut anything like straight.

Any tips other than buying a new blade - this is a learning experience primarily!

normalbloke

8,499 posts

242 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Chains and bars are cheap. If it as good as you say it is, treat it to both.

Davi

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17,153 posts

243 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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I intend to, but I'd also like to know why it happens and how to get around it if possible - I'm cutting some fairly ropey crap up at the moment so would rather not buy a new chain and bar every 10 minutes LOL.

Gorvid

22,359 posts

248 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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You'll need to keep the cutting edges at exactly the right angle for them to work properly and safely - you'll need to look the chain type up to get the info on the angle and then use the correct file size with an angle clip attached.

You'll want the cutters all at the right angle AND all filed down to match the most worn ones. And when you've done this you must use a flat file to ensure the depth gauges are also all level and at the correct height.

When servicing a saw I always sharpen the chain by hand because you can easily check it and adjust it as you go. Also - take the bar off and check it's straight that the grove isn't pinching anywhere (you'll see blueing if it is restricting the chain movement) and if it has a nose sprocket, clean it and grease it.

If you lose your angles you'll increase the chances of a kick-back, if you lose your depth gauges the same applies. If the bar is bent or wearing uneven or pinching you'll increase the chances of a tie-strap failing.... and you DO NOT want a chain coming off mid-saw.

Chains are about a tenner. wink






Gorvid

22,359 posts

248 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Also, is it oiling properly?

Check this by running the saw to full tilt on a flat surface and looking for spray from the tip.

Davi

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17,153 posts

243 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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hehe was going to email you about it G. Cheers for the tips there, will give it a good going over next week, probably get a new bar and chain too but you know me, like to know the why's and wherefore first!

Simon Brooks

1,527 posts

274 months

Saturday 11th September 2010
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try these people, very helpful, I ordered one and the wrong one was delivered (totally my fault) they exchanged it no questions

http://www.mister-solutions.co.uk/

Trevelyan

729 posts

212 months

Saturday 11th September 2010
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If they cut banana shaped it normally means that the chain is sharpened badly so the that the chain is cutting more on one side than the other. As has been said it's all to do with the angle of the cutting teeth. I'd either just buy a new chain for it or drop the old chain into your local chainsaw dealer and ask them to do it for you if you're not sure.

Gorvid

22,359 posts

248 months

Saturday 11th September 2010
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Simon Brooks said:
I've had a few from there. Very good smile

base

321 posts

203 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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chainsaw not cutting straight is always

A) left and right cutters not the same length. poor sharpening technique

b) the bar is not level,Use a right angle and run it along the rails one side will be higher than the other, this is caused by running a blunt saw and leaning on it to "help" it cut.


richyb

4,615 posts

233 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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What make is the saw and bar? The angles on the chain vary on the brand and model so you could be looking at 10 degrees or 35 degrees for the cutting angle. I use a my four saws on a daily basis and my advice would be get a new chain and bar. Safer and simpler.

Davi

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17,153 posts

243 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Gave it a good going over based on Mr G's post, the bar was surprisingly true and level, but the teeth were a bit all over the place, spent a while finding the shortest tooth and made them all match that one, took a tad off the guide height too, and though it's not perfect, it now long cuts at a very slight angle as opposed to trying to make bananas out of every cut biggrin

Still not the fastest cutter though so will replace the bar and chain, just happier spending money once I've learned why I am and how to prevent needless waste in future!

Gorvid

22,359 posts

248 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Davi said:
Gave it a good going over based on Mr G's post, the bar was surprisingly true and level, but the teeth were a bit all over the place, spent a while finding the shortest tooth and made them all match that one, took a tad off the guide height too, and though it's not perfect, it now long cuts at a very slight angle as opposed to trying to make bananas out of every cut biggrin
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RedLeicester

6,869 posts

268 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Bars and chains are silly cheap, so use as is for a little while, but plan on replacing both.



Which reminds me...

>off to the pointy sharp thing shop<

Trevelyan

729 posts

212 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Chains seem to be pretty cheap, but I've been shopping around recently for a new 20" Stihl bar and the cheapest seems to be around the 45 quid mark from ebay or 50 quid plus from a dealer. Not massive money admittedly but also not the sort of thing I'd want to replace for the sake of it.

richyb

4,615 posts

233 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Trevelyan said:
Chains seem to be pretty cheap, but I've been shopping around recently for a new 20" Stihl bar and the cheapest seems to be around the 45 quid mark from ebay or 50 quid plus from a dealer. Not massive money admittedly but also not the sort of thing I'd want to replace for the sake of it.
Get an oregon bar instead. Much cheaper but still good quality bit of kit.

Trevelyan

729 posts

212 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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I've looked at Oregon a few times actually but can't decide whether to try it or not. Oregon seems to divide opinion - some people love their kit, other people say it's good but not as good as Stihl. The Oregon bars go for about 20 quid less than Stihl, although there's not a lot of difference in the chain costs. I might compromise and go for a Stihl chain on the Oregon bar.

richyb

4,615 posts

233 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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It depends on how much use you get out of the saw I suppose. If you are a heavy user in difficult conditions it might work out better economically to use an oregon bars and chains. If are an occasional domestic user then for the sake of £20 more maybe stick to the manufacturers stuff. I use both. For the dirty jobs (removing undercut/windblown trees from rivers) I use a ms260 and get through a lot of bars and chains in the course of a year so often use oregon kit. For climbing and big felling I use a 200T and a 660 with standard stihl kit.

markh1

2,846 posts

232 months

Tuesday 14th September 2010
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can you put longer bars on? I have a stihl 023 with an 18inch bar. An extra 6 inches would be quite useful...fnar fnar..

Fume troll

4,389 posts

235 months

Tuesday 14th September 2010
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On most saws you can turn the bar upside down when one side is worn - assuming you can't straighten it with a flat file.

If you're not confident sharpening the teeth evenly, a jig can help. People often sharpen one side differently from the other side, which can start uneven wear to both chain and bar.

Cheers,

FT.