Splicing nuts

[Simpo Two]

Need to fasten mooring lines round cleats and eyes, but knots look ugly and take up space. I'm not sure how you do the traditional joind and wondered if 'splicing nuts' are the answer?

[Flintstone]

Until this day I could never have thought of a question to which the answer would be 'splicing nuts'.

I was going to suggest you get the 'Ladybird Book Of Knots' and a spike then sit yourself down for a couple of hours but that would only work if you have braided rope.

[Engineer1]

+1 on the book of knots, of course it only works if it is a stranded rope rather than modern climbing type rope.

[paintman]

Suggest you have a good look at the installation instructions on their website.
Especially the 'Warning' bit at the bottom which advises against using them in critial applications. Note that its printed in China & I think a certain amount has been lost in translation & it seems unclear as to some of the 'Don't use in....' advice.
http://www.splicingnut.com/pdf/splicing_nut_en_dir...

Edited by paintman on Saturday 11th September 10:59

[Simpo Two]

Thanks chaps. Most mooring lines I've met have some kind of loop woven into them, and you can slip them off the cleat if required, but the fore and aft lines I have are just knotted (it came like that) and I'm adding centre lines as well. Boat is about 1.5 tons (not that the lines have to hold 1.5 tons of course but it gives an idea of the inertia/momentum likely to be encountered.

So how do you do the loopy bit properly then? Is that 'whipping' or something else?

[Popeyed]

Simpo Two said:

Thanks chaps. Most mooring lines I've met have some kind of loop woven into them, and you can slip them off the cleat if required, but the fore and aft lines I have are just knotted (it came like that) and I'm adding centre lines as well. Boat is about 1.5 tons (not that the lines have to hold 1.5 tons of course but it gives an idea of the inertia/momentum likely to be encountered.

So how do you do the loopy bit properly then? Is that 'whipping' or something else?

A whipping is applied to a single end of a rope, I think you mean a 'seizing', but I would recommend you don't make an eye with a seizing, they are not designed for that kind of load. Get a three strand rope and splice an eye into it.

[Simpo Two]

Popeyed said:

Get a three strand rope and splice an eye into it.

Yep, I just looked at how they do that. Actually maybe knots aren't so ugly...

[Popeyed]

Simpo Two said:

Popeyed said:

Get a three strand rope and splice an eye into it.

Yep, I just looked at how they do that. Actually maybe knots aren't so ugly...

An eye splice is much better looking than a bowline or similar, if done properly!

[Simpo Two]

Popeyed said:

An eye splice is much better looking than a bowline or similar, if done properly!

Oh, agreed, I can just see myself siting on the side of the boat for three hours with a bit of frayed rope muttering 'Now how the fk did this go?' !

[thinfourth2]

Simpo Two said:

Popeyed said:

An eye splice is much better looking than a bowline or similar, if done properly!

Oh, agreed, I can just see myself siting on the side of the boat for three hours with a bit of frayed rope muttering 'Now how the fk did this go?' !

Which is why you do it at home in front of the telly

[Pigeon]

Splicing is easy, I taught myself how to do it when I was a kid by looking at diagrams and pissing about with bits of rope.

[ColinM50]

What Pigeon said.

Buy yourself a Swedish Fid and print off a guide how to splice an eye.

http://www.shurdington.org/Downloads/EyeSplice.pdf

Or Google is your friend, there's even videos showing you how to do it.

Bring your mooring ropes home one at a time and sit there in front of the idiot box and teach yourself. Start off with thinner easier to work with 3 core rope and you'll soon get the hang of it. Becomes addictive after a while, you'll be putting eyes in every bit of rope you see. One tip, get three different colours of insulating tape so you know which strand's which

Gets really confusing when you start on 18 core multiplait but that's another story

[Ayahuasca]

You can splice modern ropes like spectra, etc, it just looks way more fiddly (!).