should i be concerned?
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willy wonka

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66 posts

195 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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I am going to view a car today that is on a 03 plate and its had 7 owners should i be concerned about this?
Is it fairly normal?
The car is a mini cooper s

Willy

N Dentressangle

3,453 posts

251 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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I'd say 7 owners is a lot in 7 years.

Some may be personal plate changes or transfer from company to individual.

It would make me even more careful than usual, and I'd probably be sure to HPI it. If there really have been 7 owners, why have so many people decided to sell this car on so soon? People normally keep a car longer than a year... scratchchin

Dick_Phallus

1,155 posts

213 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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How long have the last 2 or 3 owners owned the car for? If it's had 3 owners in the last 18 months I'd steer well clear. Which unless it's had 1 owner per year for 7 years it almost certainly will have done. My bet is on this being a lemon.

willy wonka

Original Poster:

66 posts

195 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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I have done an hpi and it shows 7 owners.I will inestigate further.
Willy.

balders118

5,940 posts

197 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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Dick_Phallus said:
How long have the last 2 or 3 owners owned the car for? If it's had 3 owners in the last 18 months I'd steer well clear. Which unless it's had 1 owner per year for 7 years it almost certainly will have done. My bet is on this being a lemon.
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ConorD1

7 posts

194 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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Dab of oppo

543 posts

215 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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It may have been financed when new and the finance not paid, when the car came up for repo it used to be common practice to change the name of the registered keeper to a mate, cousin etc slowing down the repo process - I have this on good authority from a mate in that line of work.
The car may well be fine now BUT early in its life several "Owners" would suggest this sort of activity.
Aside from the multiple owners (Wouldn't be too worried) I would make sure there was evidence of regular maintainence etc, If there is I wouldn't let the previous issue put me off.

Dick_Phallus

1,155 posts

213 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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Dab of oppo said:
It may have been financed when new and the finance not paid, when the car came up for repo it used to be common practice to change the name of the registered keeper to a mate, cousin etc slowing down the repo process - I have this on good authority from a mate in that line of work.
The car may well be fine now BUT early in its life several "Owners" would suggest this sort of activity.
Aside from the multiple owners (Wouldn't be too worried) I would make sure there was evidence of regular maintainence etc, If there is I wouldn't let the previous issue put me off.
It's also worth remembering that even if it does turn out to be a sound car, if you decide to shift it in a year or so as well (as lots of people here are prone to) it will be 8 owners in 8 years, and you'll probably have a smaller market of people to sell it to.

nottyash

4,671 posts

224 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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Cars like Minis are toys to some people, they are not practical as they have very little space and a tiny boot.
You find Women love them, get pregnant need space etc all kinds of reasons.
I wouldnt look at 7 owners and say its no good.
Look at the history, HPI record and condition.
You often find Porsches have quite a few owners.
Also dealers sometimes register them, adding an owner.
My M3 had 1 owner, yet it had 3 on the log book, the supplying dealer, the 1 owner and the dealer i bought it from. it was only 4 years old.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

229 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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The mini is a fashion item as much as a car, so you will find the young will max their budget to get one. Then the bills start to arrive such as service costs and insurance and they realise they are beyond their means. That and this typ of person wants the latest registration plate they can find.
I found this to be the case with alot of minis after searching for one for a female colleague. they certainly appear to have higher than average (well compared to what I have experienced)number of owners.

So maybe not a lemon but care is advised.

willy wonka

Original Poster:

66 posts

195 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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Well i went and looked at the car the reason for so many owners was given as private plate transfers.

Willy

Shaw Tarse

31,888 posts

232 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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willy wonka said:
Well i went and looked at the car the reason for so many owners was given as private plate transfers.

Willy
scratchchin I didn't think plate transfers = new owners?

MoonMonkey

2,333 posts

242 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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willy wonka said:
Well i went and looked at the car the reason for so many owners was given as private plate transfers.

Willy
Someones having a laugh buddy. Private plate transfers won't show as a new keeper on the V5. Transfers will appear on the HPI check.... run a mile is my advice anyway. far too many owners for my liking.

andy43

13,188 posts

283 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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AS long as it's HPI clear and the history checks out - phone BMW customer services and they'll give you chapter and verse - it'll be fine. Apart from the signs of a welded join across the middle of the half red and half yellow roof...

uncinquesei

918 posts

206 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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Minis seem to have lots of owners in my experience. I think people buy them to replace larger "executive" cars with the idea that it'll still have some cachet and be economical and fun. They soon learn that they are small and bouncy and (in cooper s form) not that economical... It gets replaced by the sort car it originally replaced and the next owner does the same thing...

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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There may well be niggles with the car.

Who knows it might have an intermittant fault.

7 owners in. 7years IS a lot especially for a run of the mill car. Ferrari possibly porche 911 turbo yea but not a shopping car a to b

TVR1

5,478 posts

254 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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willy wonka said:
I am going to view a car today that is on a 03 plate and its had 7 owners should i be concerned about this?
Is it fairly normal?
The car is a mini cooper s

Willy
This may go against the grain a bit but as usual a number of posters have jumped on the 'too many owners, there must be a problem' bandwagon.

Understandable. However, cast your mind back to 2003. Mini was at the top end of 'most desirable cars' (and still is, retained value wise) with at least a 6 months waiting list.Cooper S, more so.

TLC (ie 5 years free servicing had just been introduced) coupled with one of the first manufacturers to offer MILEAGE (not time'ish) based servicing and you have a car that was both good value to run(low life cost)and retained excellent used values. Who wouldn't want one? I guess that over the first 2-3 years of this cars life,it had 3-4 owners? then the following owners, being at the end of that particular cycle, figured they would get the same benefits.However, they found out that to extend the TLC would cost them £500 and couldn't afford/didn't want to pay and so moved it on.

Now the car has ended up at an indie. It still has full history,paid for by Mini with maybe a few dings and dents(cheap and easy fix)with all warranty work carried out(even if you didn't realise it)So...... buy the bugger if it looks and feels right.....7 owners can mean many things! not just the bad things.

willy wonka

Original Poster:

66 posts

195 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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Thanks for all the responses.I have decided against buying the car as there were one or two things that i was not happy with.

Willy

TVR1

5,478 posts

254 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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Shaw Tarse said:
willy wonka said:
Well i went and looked at the car the reason for so many owners was given as private plate transfers.

Willy
scratchchin I didn't think plate transfers = new owners?
they don't.....

hyperblue

2,908 posts

209 months

Sunday 12th September 2010
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willy wonka said:
Thanks for all the responses.I have decided against buying the car as there were one or two things that i was not happy with.

Willy
There's plenty of low mileage, good condition R53 MINI's out there at low prices at the moment. Seems like they're not keeping their value like they used to. Bad fuel economy and high road tax probably don't help.