gas smell
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dr.ian

Original Poster:

115 posts

278 months

Wednesday 31st March 2004
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I am going to replace hose that always causes the smells. I am going to use fuel hose. Can anyone tell me what diameter and length of hose worked for you? Thanks!

Freshcut

14 posts

265 months

Wednesday 31st March 2004
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Try going to "Problems" on the Esprit Fact File page. There is a nice writeup about replacing the fuel vent tube. I also believe it has information on what size fuel line to use.

dictys

914 posts

281 months

Wednesday 31st March 2004
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f1karting

124 posts

266 months

windsorlotus

37 posts

273 months

Saturday 3rd April 2004
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The fuel vapor is still invading my cabin even after changing out all the hoses. I found my rear inner window not fully sealed all the way around and spent $100 to get it sealed but the smell is still there. I really don't no where it is getting in. Someone once suggested a saturated charcoal cannister but I don't know. Even if it is, how is it that I am smelling it ?
The smell gets much worse when one window is open. 2 windows open and the smell is gone.

SGB 90SE

unity1

271 posts

275 months

Saturday 3rd April 2004
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Not wanting to be the bringer of bad news but it sounds like a leak in a fuel tank to me. I had exactly the same problem. Its easy to check, Just jack up the rear drop the undertray (three bolts each side, Two under and one in the wheel arch). You should then see 80mm'ish inspection holes under the tanks. Put a rag on the end on stick/screwdriver and wipe the sponge under the tank. If it smells of fuel you have a leak.

Mine went this year and only recently had it replaced. Good news is if its the drivers side is can be done with the engine in if not the its an engine out job.

Steve

sanj

225 posts

305 months

Saturday 3rd April 2004
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unity1 said:
Good news is if its the drivers side is can be done with the engine in if not the its an engine out job.


Careful. It's driver's side in the UK, but passenger side in the US.

Cheers,
Sanj

lotusguy

1,798 posts

280 months

Saturday 3rd April 2004
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Yep,

Sorry to say, it does sound like a fuel tank leak. Even a small leak will saturate the foam padding under the tank, making the smell nearly impossible to get rid of. Getting the tanks out is a challenge, but doable.

The best, most cost effective solution is to have the tank repaired. The best in the business is Moyer's Tank repair (www.gas-tank.com). In addition to employing the ReNu process, Moyers is skilled in tank repair. They are nationally recognized by many restorers, hotrodders, motocyclists and the like and have been since 1946. Their work carries a LifeTime Warranty.

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windsorlotus

37 posts

273 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Sorry guys ... both tanks have been changed. Passenger side last summer, Drivers side 2001.

Regards
SGB

autocross7

524 posts

273 months

Tuesday 6th April 2004
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windsorlotus said:
The fuel vapor is still invading my cabin even after changing out all the hoses. I found my rear inner window not fully sealed all the way around and spent $100 to get it sealed but the smell is still there. I really don't no where it is getting in. Someone once suggested a saturated charcoal cannister but I don't know. Even if it is, how is it that I am smelling it ?
The smell gets much worse when one window is open. 2 windows open and the smell is gone.

SGB 90SE



If it is anywhere in the engine bay... it can easily get in through the seat belt mountings (located just above and in front of the fuel tanks). They are not sealed... There is a one way valve (check valve) running up to the charcoal cannister. If it fails it can allow a strong fuel smell into the car.

The valve failing will allow a back wash of fuel fumes. The valve is located near the cannister right under the passenger seat belt mounting (well... in the States it is the passenger side).

Openeing two windows cuases a vacume that draws the fumes back into the rear of the car. One window will create a draw that brings the fuel smell into the car where it has no place to go. It can get quite intolerable...


It is easy to test... pull it off and try to blow air through it both ways... there is an arrow indicating the direction air should flow. Obviously, air should not flow against the arrows direction. Much cheaper than the charcoal cannister to replace.


Drive topless!!!
Cameron

autocross7

524 posts

273 months

Tuesday 6th April 2004
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windsorlotus said:
The fuel vapor is still invading my cabin even after changing out all the hoses. I found my rear inner window not fully sealed all the way around and spent $100 to get it sealed but the smell is still there. I really don't no where it is getting in. Someone once suggested a saturated charcoal cannister but I don't know. Even if it is, how is it that I am smelling it ?
The smell gets much worse when one window is open. 2 windows open and the smell is gone.

SGB 90SE



If it is anywhere in the engine bay... it can easily get in through the seat belt mountings (located just above and in front of the fuel tanks). They are not sealed... There is a one way valve (check valve) running up to the charcoal cannister. If it fails it can allow a strong fuel smell into the car.

The valve failing will allow a back wash of fuel fumes. The valve is located near the cannister right under the passenger seat belt mounting (well... in the States it is the passenger side).

Openeing two windows cuases a vacume that draws the fumes back into the rear of the car. One window will create a draw that brings the fuel smell into the car where it has no place to go. It can get quite intolerable...


It is easy to test... pull it off and try to blow air through it both ways... there is an arrow indicating the direction air should flow. Obviously, air should not flow against the arrows direction. Much cheaper than the charcoal cannister to replace.


Drive topless!!!
Cameron

cnh1990

3,035 posts

286 months

Tuesday 6th April 2004
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There is also a check valve under right rear hatch gutter just to the inside of the right fuel filler flap. It is held in place by 2 phillps head screws to the gutter. The right tank cover must be removed access the canister hoses and check valve from the canister fresh air intake.
Calvin