Rear Passenger side Wheel "loose"
Rear Passenger side Wheel "loose"
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Dave222

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23 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th September 2010
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Wheel nuts are tight but the whole wheel assembly is loose, the centre nut seems to be tight, so is it likely to be the bearing( but it doesn't sound rough). Does anyone have any diagrams from thr workshop manual on this area. Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers Dave.

R0162

2,435 posts

193 months

Tuesday 14th September 2010
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If you turn corners full lock are you getting a greating sound from the disc rubbing against the callipers?
I had this on mine and after tightening the problem never came back, the main hub nut will simply need tightening some more, get a big bar and turn through another 90 to 180 deg. You will note the red lines marked which suggests the nut is fully tightened, dont let this throw you off it is not fully tight until it is fully tight and seen as though your hub is loose i would say it needs tightening some more smile

Jim O.

486 posts

226 months

Tuesday 14th September 2010
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You're sure the wheel movement is in the hub, not the upright or any of the control arms or ball joints? I'd jack up that corner until the wheel is off the ground, then shake/wiggle the wheel while watching for movement - two people makes this much easier. If the movement is in the hub, the wheel bearing seems OK and the axle nut is torqued to spec (250 ft/lbs), then I'd suspect a worn out hub.

Dave222

Original Poster:

23 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th September 2010
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Thanks very much guys, just what I needed, tried teghtening the hub nut tonight and got a good 3/4 turn. Just need now to borrow big torque wrench from work to finish the job off.
PS. How often do you have to check these nuts, never had this issue on any other car!!
Once again thanks Dave

mr2turbo300

406 posts

272 months

Tuesday 14th September 2010
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People fit the Porsche nuts to stop it happening
edit...
From the wiki
Rear Hub nuts -Improvement over standard part (which can become loose) - P999.084.641.02 LOCK NUT (Porsche Boxter part)

Rob.

Edited by mr2turbo300 on Tuesday 14th September 21:31

jdearden

1,746 posts

206 months

Tuesday 14th September 2010
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This happened to me once I had put boxster nuts on. I put some loc tite on it and tightened up to right torq and never had problem since

Jim O.

486 posts

226 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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That's pretty much what we do on all of our cars - Porsche axle nut and red Loctite, then torque to spec. Haven't had one loosen up yet. Now, the stock nuts are a totally different story. If you have the stock axle nuts, the best thing to do is to remove them, go to the nearest body of water, and give them the witch test. If they pass, then go ahead and put them back on the car...

If the axle nuts have been loose for a while, I'd suggest checking the hubs and bearings for wear. Without the clamping force from the axle nut, many times the inner race of the bearing will separate, or the inside edge of the hub (the part that fits inside the bearing) will wear. On one car that I worked on, the inside edge of the hub was so worn that it wasn't contacting the inner race of the wheel bearing - when I removed the axle, I could reach in and spin the wheel bearing race without moving the hub at all. Unfortunately, to really inspect the hub requires pressing the hub out of the wheel bearing, which pretty much destroys the bearing. But the bearing isn't very expensive, and changing a wheel bearing isn't too bad of a job...

S B C

276 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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My rear hub nuts seem to have a lock tab which are made out of pretty sturdy metal which would have to be destroyed to remove them as they couldn't be bent back and re-used.
Is this right?

jetstream

106 posts

221 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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S B C said:
My rear hub nuts seem to have a lock tab which are made out of pretty sturdy metal which would have to be destroyed to remove them as they couldn't be bent back and re-used.
Is this right?
No treat it as any other nut, that is just the way they are constructed as they are made up of about four thin plates. just drop a socket over and turn.

Matt

S B C

276 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Thanks Matt,
So, remove them as normal and replace with Boxster nuts?

jetstream

106 posts

221 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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S B C said:
Thanks Matt,
So, remove them as normal and replace with Boxster nuts?
yes thats correct, the factory torque is 270nm when you install the new nut.

Matt

Dave222

Original Poster:

23 posts

192 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Once again thanks for the replies but now I have two different torque settings, 250ft/lbs = about 333nm and 270nm = about 200ft/lbs.
Can anyone confirm which is the correct setting, or is the 270nm for the boxster nut?
Thanks again.

jdearden

1,746 posts

206 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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did mine to 270nm

Jim O.

486 posts

226 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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250 ft/lbs is out of the US build manual, chapter 5.