Euro finals performances
Euro finals performances
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Tet

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225 months

Tuesday 14th September 2010
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Looking at Andy Carter's record setting runs from the weekend, I naturally wondered how that would have fared in an NHRA race. Looking at the qualifying times from Indy last week, not only would Andy have qualified, but the following racers all ran qualifying times quicker than the NHRA bump spots in their classes:

Andy Carter
Risto Poutiainen
Urs Erbacher
Stig Neergaard
Janne Ahonen
Anita Mäkelä

Danny Bellio
Jürgen Nagel
Arvid Grødem
Dan Larsen

Fred Hanssen
Timo Habermann

Melanie Troxel
Adam Flamholc

You can't compare the two directly for a number of reasons, but still, it's an indication that our performances over here are starting to catch up. Well done to all involved.

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crikey

1,705 posts

232 months

Tuesday 14th September 2010
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I've been out-anoraked !

Tet

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1,196 posts

225 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Well, you know how it is... one does one's best :-)

BennettRacing

729 posts

232 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Well done to all.

The Enthusiast

274 posts

232 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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For me its hard to work out what the 1000ft e.t/Speed would be on the 1/4 mile. I gather the best over the 1000ft is a 3.75 at 322/mph.(could be wrong.) Does anyone know roughtly what that would be on the 1/4 mile? (saying there is no loss of power etc.)

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NitroChrisUK

228 posts

203 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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my guess would be a very low 4.40 or high 4.30

peterwalters

230 posts

232 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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I think the general rule of thumb is to add 0.69

Tet

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1,196 posts

225 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Not quite that quick. A 3.75s 1000' time would be perhaps a 4.45s pass over the quarter mile. Take a look at some runs from when the NHRA used to run over the full quarter. In 2008, Tony Schumacher ran 4.480s, with a 1000' time of 3.771s, and Antron Brown ran the same quarter mile time with a 1000' time of 3.805s.

crikey

1,705 posts

232 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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One number that I'd never looked at before the weekend, God knows why given my perversion for such things, was the time splits for the last 2 quarters of the track.

For Andy's 4.5728:

660' to 1000' = 0.7808

1000' to 1320' = 0.6861

That's over a distance nigh on the same as a 100m running track.

Another number to throw at the uninitiated smile

NitroChrisUK

228 posts

203 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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NHRA National Record over the 1/4

November 12th 2006

Tony Schumacher 4.428 327.98mph

Tony Schumacher's incremental times: 60ft-0.841 sec., 330ft-2.114, 660ft-3.003/283.19mph, 1,000ft-3.759

All from here

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=127...

The Enthusiast

274 posts

232 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Thanks, I think earlier in the year there was a run even quicker over the 1000ft.Dixon has done 323mph over the 1000 which I witnessed. Think there has been a 324 aswell. On a seperate run there was a 3.753 which would be quicker than the record.Whats the best in the UK? Was it a 3.88 last weekend?

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The Enthusiast

274 posts

232 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Just been researching, If Andy Carter qualified at the 2006 Pomona Finals he would of qualified about 13th. (That was when they were still running 1/4 mile.)

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Burndown

732 posts

187 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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A one off stormer is one thing but the impressive thing about the NHRA front runners is the consistently fast numbers whilst going rounds.

crikey

1,705 posts

232 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Burndown said:
A one off stormer is one thing but the impressive thing about the NHRA front runners is the consistently fast numbers whilst going rounds.
With their budgets and track time they should be more consistent, given what the FIA competitors achieve with their limited budgets and track time I think their performance is very comparable.

The Enthusiast

274 posts

232 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Burndown said:
A one off stormer is one thing but the impressive thing about the NHRA front runners is the consistently fast numbers whilst going rounds.
Yeah i agree.Ive noticed it in the US.They seem to run a good number and step it up further. We do good though here in the UK.

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veryoldfart

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226 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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CH3NO2ADDICT

62 posts

187 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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Does anyone know how much effect the track has?

Santa Pod is prepared brilliantly but it is tarmac and the NHRA tracks are super-flat ground concrete.

I have no idea how much effect this has.

I do know that on the same track, on the same day, the Andersens' car has run pretty close to a car which is tuned by a legend and funded by a country, so they must be doing something right ...

http://www.nhra.net/2009/events/race23/results/fri...


The Enthusiast

274 posts

232 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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CH3NO2ADDICT said:
Does anyone know how much effect the track has?

Santa Pod is prepared brilliantly but it is tarmac and the NHRA tracks are super-flat ground concrete.

I have no idea how much effect this has.

I do know that on the same track, on the same day, the Andersens' car has run pretty close to a car which is tuned by a legend and funded by a country, so they must be doing something right ...

http://www.nhra.net/2009/events/race23/results/fri...
Yes they did well when they were out there in Vegas. They ran that number at night so the track was cooler.(I was there.) When it got hot in the first round they smoked the tires, although some US teams did aswell. By Pomona Finals the yanks had stepped up. Nattaas run is on here from what I filmed last year: http://www.youtube.com/user/alvin5516#p/u/11/vXilR...

I think concrete tracks are more hardwearing, could be wrong.

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