PistonHeads.com.......MPG matters

[y2blade]

you lot are changing



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[Chris71]

Surely being a bit frugal with your daily driver means you can get something like, I dunno, this for a weekend toy though:

[soad]

Damn, all this MPG talk is giving me a headache

[plasticpig]

Chris71 said:

Surely being a bit frugal with your daily driver means you can get something like, I dunno, this for a weekend toy though:

I would happily have on as a daily driver. I doubt it's much worse than my Range Rovers 16mpg average.

[y2blade]

soad said:

Damn, all this MPG talk is giving me a headache

get used to it
there is a definite trend forming

[rudecherub]

the price of petrol is in real terms 15% higher than in 1983 when it cost £1.67 per gallon, now it's over five pounds.

It's hardly surprising when other consumer goods ( thanks to the industrial revolution getting to china ) cost less, that people are thinking this way.

[busta]

Has a bit to do with economics, also has something to do with trip computers.

Before people only knew their MPG through brimming the tank and recording milage. Now, most people can see what MPG they are doing in an instant and can see how changes in their driving directly affect it, so it is more of a talking point.

Also, boasting about high speeds seems to be taboo now, and acceleration can only be accurately measured at the drag strip which few of us go to, so discussions about either of these rarely stand up against the inevitable flogging anyone talking about such things gets on a car forum.

Doing 80mph is illegal. Doing 80mpg isn't.

[Cotty]

busta said:

and acceleration can only be accurately measured at the drag strip which few of us go to,

[Cotty]

busta said:

Has a bit to do with economics, also has something to do with trip computers.

The BMW E30 had a guage to tell you how much fuel you were using 20 years ago. Great for spanking up slip roads and getting low figure and coasting down slip roads at 70 to get huge mpg

[anonymous-user]

plasticpig said:

I would happily have on as a daily driver. I doubt it's much worse than my Range Rovers 16mpg average.

I'm pretty sure they dont get much more than single figures.

[y2blade]

rudecherub said:

the price of petrol is in real terms 15% higher than in 1983 when it cost £1.67 per gallon, now it's over five pounds.

It's hardly surprising when other consumer goods ( thanks to the industrial revolution getting to china ) cost less, that people are thinking this way.

for me it was purely down to me saying "enough is enough"...I'm no longer willing to put £80 (and rising) in my T5 and to get 350ish miles MAXIMUM even when driving very steady

...with the D5 I put the same amount in and get over twice the distance per tank, even whilst driving how I like too (rather than trying to eek out every last mile from the petrol car)

[Garlick]

Merc is my frugal car at 30ish MPG on a run, late 20s in town. That'll do me thank you.

[busta]

Cotty said:

busta said:

and acceleration can only be accurately measured at the drag strip which few of us go to,

Go on then, how else do I convince someone my 1.6 hatchback is as fast as a (insert 'faster' car here) without being laughed at?

[Wadeski]

I'm doing 80 miles per day, three days a week. i spent the last two days looking at Volvo S60 D5 autos thinking of 600 mile range etc. And they are cheap too, i can get a good one for four grand. Then 1200 quids worth of diesel.

then i slapped myself, because the petrol to run my thirsty sportscar (which i already own and owes me nothing) the same distance is only £2,800.

sure a barge will be more comfortable. so would taking valium and getting the train.

[cmackay81]

Lol in truth it's because most people are thick,

they will spend £15,000 on a car that will depreciate £5000 in the first year, but are scared to pay an extra £300 a year in petrol.
so many times people will get thefar slower and often more expensive version of a car to gain a theoretical +3mpg that will make bugger all difference in reality.

/i mean honestly why spend so much on acar if you're too tight to even put the petrol in it.

If people could see the cost per minute of using their fridges/TVs/Lights/Ovens etc, then they prob wouldn't use those either.

[cmackay81]

I do understand it a bit when people do large mileages, but for the average person doing 10000 miles a year, people are going over the top about it.
In your position, doubling your mpg over a huge mileage is worth while, but most decisions I see written about on these boards are over spending thousands more on a car that will only save them a few mpg, and over a relatively small mileage a year this seems daft.

talk to the guys on the yank forums about mpg, and they will probably tell you it doesn't hurt until it hits single figures :P

[angusc43]

cmackay81 said:

Lol in truth it's because most people are thick,

they will spend £15,000 on a car that will depreciate £5000 in the first year, but are scared to pay an extra £300 a year in petrol.
so many times people will get thefar slower and often more expensive version of a car to gain a theoretical +3mpg that will make bugger all difference in reality.

/i mean honestly why spend so much on acar if you're too tight to even put the petrol in it.

If people could see the cost per minute of using their fridges/TVs/Lights/Ovens etc, then they prob wouldn't use those either.

SPOT ON. But please don't tell anyone because it means I can pick up 3/4/5 year old V8 petrol Mercs for peanuts

[Cotty]

busta said:

Cotty said:

busta said:

and acceleration can only be accurately measured at the drag strip which few of us go to,

Go on then, how else do I convince someone my 1.6 hatchback is as fast as a (insert 'faster' car here) without being laughed at?

What I ment was some of us do go on the drag strip, see profile pic

[y2blade]

cmackay81 said:

I see written about on these boards are over spending thousands more on a car that will only save them a few mpg, and over a relatively small mileage a year this seems daft.

"you pay more for Diesel" ..that old chestnut
you pay as much as you are willing to pay!

how are we paying "more" for a diesel car?

I had a budget of £xxxx....I'd have spent that same amount regardless of weather it was a Diesel or petrol car

Edited by y2blade on Wednesday 15th September 10:19

[Dr Doofenshmirtz]

You either moan about rising fuel prices, or be a bit more proactive and do something about it.