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I haven't had a car for a few months now as i can't find anything i fancy. I've been looking for Camaros/Firebirds/Transam's. Not found anything that really grabs my attention.
I was going to view a couple but one ended up being a cat d write off a few years ago and the other one didn't add up either.
So i was having a look round and there are quite a few 928 S2's around £3-4K, my budget being the bottom to middle of that.
Some do seem to suffer from expensive mechanical work but many seem to have been sat for years which will probably lead to big bills from seals drying out and failing etc.
I'm after something automatic to help my knee for now. Most good auto's seem to be in larger vehicles in general. Was thinking maybe of an XJ8 as i have fancied one before, 4L with the latest tensioners etc. I think it might be a bit cramped in there though which could be a problem.
Anyone have any experience with 928's or know of any in this price range, preferably in the Yorkshire area.
Thanks, getting withdrawal symptoms from not driving so long but i don't want to buy a car i don't want for the sake of it.
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I was going to view a couple but one ended up being a cat d write off a few years ago and the other one didn't add up either.
So i was having a look round and there are quite a few 928 S2's around £3-4K, my budget being the bottom to middle of that.
Some do seem to suffer from expensive mechanical work but many seem to have been sat for years which will probably lead to big bills from seals drying out and failing etc.
I'm after something automatic to help my knee for now. Most good auto's seem to be in larger vehicles in general. Was thinking maybe of an XJ8 as i have fancied one before, 4L with the latest tensioners etc. I think it might be a bit cramped in there though which could be a problem.
Anyone have any experience with 928's or know of any in this price range, preferably in the Yorkshire area.
Thanks, getting withdrawal symptoms from not driving so long but i don't want to buy a car i don't want for the sake of it.
.If I hadn't just bought a Mustang, I'd be going to look at this.
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1866881.htm
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1866881.htm
Its a little bit out of my price range and the insurance is a bit more as i have no LHD experience so altogether its abit out of my price range. It seems pretty nice though.
I quite like this as well http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C167222/ but again it was just slightly out of my price range and is sold now.
I quite like this as well http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C167222/ but again it was just slightly out of my price range and is sold now.
they truly have aged very well IMO. You'd never believe they were a 1975 model.If you are very lucky you might find a decent usable one for that sort of money, unlikely to get an S4 unless either very lucky or it needs work.
I had a 928 s4 earlier this year for a few months and was very impressed by it.
Lovely car to drive, the steering, brakes, handling are terrific, and of course it goes very well with that superb v8, even as an auto its still a quick car today. The best bit about it was that it did not feel big or soft to drive, it was like a big 944. It was quite capable of being hustled down the lanes, although its high geared nature makes it more of a GT/cruiser and was superb for high speed cruising (giving over 20 mpg).
Parts can be expensive even using specialists for cheap or 2nd hand parts; so if you have such a limited budget you'd need to be sure it was running ok and had been kept in regular use, well maintained.
I had a 928 s4 earlier this year for a few months and was very impressed by it.
Lovely car to drive, the steering, brakes, handling are terrific, and of course it goes very well with that superb v8, even as an auto its still a quick car today. The best bit about it was that it did not feel big or soft to drive, it was like a big 944. It was quite capable of being hustled down the lanes, although its high geared nature makes it more of a GT/cruiser and was superb for high speed cruising (giving over 20 mpg).
Parts can be expensive even using specialists for cheap or 2nd hand parts; so if you have such a limited budget you'd need to be sure it was running ok and had been kept in regular use, well maintained.
I've got a late model GTS, but my old man had an S2. The original body cars (pre-S4) are generally considered to be a sharper drive and make up for their lack of power with less weight.
Mines a superb car, well before its time, but you need to want one if you're going to do it on a budget, although contrary to popular belief it can be done on a budget. They're not impossible to work on, although they are a little more complex than most contemporary cars.
Although the mechanicals are robust (save a few quirks like cracking distributors and driveshafts winding up flex plates causing engine failure... although I'm not sure either of those apply to the S2) they have a propensity to break seemingly minor systems in cruel and unusual ways, usually the HVAC. All the info is there on the very good 928 section on rennlist.com on how to fix it, but like I said, they can be fiddly, and parts can be both expensive and hard to obtain on occasions, I recently waited 3 months for a 350 quid fan assembly that was on back order, and mine's a 96 model!
If you want lots of solid advice, the man to talk to is Paul Anderson, of 928 spares in Stroud, although if you're London based, I'd suggest talking to the guy that looks after my car, just search for Leigh's Garage in Earl's Court. He's a bit eccentric and can be a bit of a pain with how long he takes, but he's an excellent and trustworthy mechanic, and he's good value for a Porsche specialist.
Oh and the most important thing is to find a good one to start off with. Watch out for the handling in particular, if it feels vague and wandery then don't listen to anyone saying 'they all do that', it should be sharp and crisp, but at the age they are suspension components are now getting quite old, and every problem seems to result in tramlining and vagueness around the front end.
Mines a superb car, well before its time, but you need to want one if you're going to do it on a budget, although contrary to popular belief it can be done on a budget. They're not impossible to work on, although they are a little more complex than most contemporary cars.
Although the mechanicals are robust (save a few quirks like cracking distributors and driveshafts winding up flex plates causing engine failure... although I'm not sure either of those apply to the S2) they have a propensity to break seemingly minor systems in cruel and unusual ways, usually the HVAC. All the info is there on the very good 928 section on rennlist.com on how to fix it, but like I said, they can be fiddly, and parts can be both expensive and hard to obtain on occasions, I recently waited 3 months for a 350 quid fan assembly that was on back order, and mine's a 96 model!
If you want lots of solid advice, the man to talk to is Paul Anderson, of 928 spares in Stroud, although if you're London based, I'd suggest talking to the guy that looks after my car, just search for Leigh's Garage in Earl's Court. He's a bit eccentric and can be a bit of a pain with how long he takes, but he's an excellent and trustworthy mechanic, and he's good value for a Porsche specialist.
Oh and the most important thing is to find a good one to start off with. Watch out for the handling in particular, if it feels vague and wandery then don't listen to anyone saying 'they all do that', it should be sharp and crisp, but at the age they are suspension components are now getting quite old, and every problem seems to result in tramlining and vagueness around the front end.
Edited by The Wookie on Wednesday 15th September 08:34
A few years ago I looked at a 928.
It had a service history as thick as a Chinese phone book which could be construed as a good thing, but in the year before it was for sale there were reciepts for around £4k.
I decided that wasn't a legacy I cared to inherit and left it.
Shame as I like 928s.
It had a service history as thick as a Chinese phone book which could be construed as a good thing, but in the year before it was for sale there were reciepts for around £4k.
I decided that wasn't a legacy I cared to inherit and left it.
Shame as I like 928s.
[quote=The Wookie] although if you're London based, I'd suggest talking to the guy that looks after my car, just search for Leigh's Garage in Earl's Court. but he's an excellent and trustworthy mechanic, and he's good value for a Porsche specialist.
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another +1 if you are near london and have a 928 or 944 for Leigh's garage. He has looked after my 944 turbo and 928's and he really knows his stuff on these older porsche's.
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another +1 if you are near london and have a 928 or 944 for Leigh's garage. He has looked after my 944 turbo and 928's and he really knows his stuff on these older porsche's.
rallycross said:
The Wookie said:
although if you're London based, I'd suggest talking to the guy that looks after my car, just search for Leigh's Garage in Earl's Court. but he's an excellent and trustworthy mechanic, and he's good value for a Porsche specialist.
another +1 if you are near london and have a 928 or 944 for Leigh's garage. He has looked after my 944 turbo and 928's and he really knows his stuff on these older porsche's.
But seriously though, banter aside he is superb and I would never trust anyone more than Leigh with my Porsche.
Edited by The Wookie on Wednesday 15th September 09:36
Big Rod said:
A few years ago I looked at a 928.
It had a service history as thick as a Chinese phone book which could be construed as a good thing, but in the year before it was for sale there were reciepts for around £4k.
I decided that wasn't a legacy I cared to inherit and left it.
Shame as I like 928s.
Reminds me of seeing a £12,000 Maserati 3200GT in the classifieds proudly proclaiming that the last trip to the garage had cost £6,000... It had a service history as thick as a Chinese phone book which could be construed as a good thing, but in the year before it was for sale there were reciepts for around £4k.
I decided that wasn't a legacy I cared to inherit and left it.
Shame as I like 928s.
In a way quite tempted by the 928. The other front engined Porsches are great cars, but the weak point in all of them is the rather anodyne engine. The idea of 'a 944 with a V8 in it' rather appeals, but I guess there is actually rather more to the 928 than that. Not least because it came first. Oh, and a slush box would put me off for a weekend car... Granted there were some manuals but they're like rocking horse poo I believe?
BlueMR2 said:
So i was having a look round and there are quite a few 928 S2's around £3-4K, my budget being the bottom to middle of that.
I think in your proce range a 928 wont be without issues, but i reckon you could get something useable, then if it goes very pear shaped break it for spares, you'll get most of your money back.Go for it, its a 5 ltr V8 and this is PH!
I had a 1984 manual 928 which i sold a few months ago to replace with an XJS.
I went into it with my heart not my head...bought the car for 2k and spent about 5k on it...sold it for 3....do the maths.
I did have the gearbox rebuilt which was the biggest outlay (about 1k for parts and 2k for labour) and the MoT afterwards was 900 quid.
Stunning cars but just remember that in their day they were (in our money) 100k cars...
I went into it with my heart not my head...bought the car for 2k and spent about 5k on it...sold it for 3....do the maths.
I did have the gearbox rebuilt which was the biggest outlay (about 1k for parts and 2k for labour) and the MoT afterwards was 900 quid.
Stunning cars but just remember that in their day they were (in our money) 100k cars...
Sorry it's a little Off, but 1979 yeh! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUqRkWaXJRA&fea...
Edited by Mr GrimNasty on Wednesday 15th September 12:46
Mr GrimNasty said:
Sorry it's a little Off, but 1979 yeh! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZlIO6yKHFo
For a 30 year old car it looks pretty modern still. The design of the headlights is what dates it a bit imo the way they lift forward rather than swivel up like the 944 and Mr2's etc. Apart from that though it looks impressive still.
Huntsman said:
BlueMR2 said:
So i was having a look round and there are quite a few 928 S2's around £3-4K, my budget being the bottom to middle of that.
I think in your proce range a 928 wont be without issues, but i reckon you could get something useable, then if it goes very pear shaped break it for spares, you'll get most of your money back.Go for it, its a 5 ltr V8 and this is PH!
I hope that i can get a decent one mechanically with no rust (most seem to have no rust) if there are a few bits that need doing but can be done over a period of time rather than straight away then that would be ok and they can be done as time and funds allow. It will be my only car, so i will try to use it pretty regularly and hopefully that will help as well.
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