broken car in the south of france......
broken car in the south of france......
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esuuv

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1,420 posts

234 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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My friend just called – him and his girlfriend are in France on holiday – near Brive – and his car has died. Its a 2001 diesel A3 done about 50 / 60k I think.

Apparently its been running a bit rough for a while – drove it down on Saturday – on Sunday after being driven 2 or 3k its lost all its coolant and stopped, got the car recovered to a garage – and the mechanic says the engine needs a rebuild………..he can’t get the exact details right now as neither of them have the french vocab for cylinder head. Personally I think it sounds like its had no oil in it – its run dry / overheated and is now dead – but am open to suggestions? He says there were no warning lights on until it stopped – I’d have thought on low oil level or pressure you would get an indication?

He doesn’t have AA so calling them up and getting it recovered to the UK is going to be expensive. I’ve no idea what the car is worth but it can’t be all that much?

Options currently are

Pay to have it recovered to the UK – where the damage might be terminal anyway so a waste of money.

Walk away from it, fly home and buy a new car.

Take it to a different garage – get it repaired

Sell it in France broken…..being RHD I’m thinking there wont be a massive market for it.

Basically does anyone else have any ideas? Ways to get it back without costing the earth? Any ideas what could be wrong with it / how much to sort it once its back?

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Get a friend to drive over the and tow them back?

Have they actually phoned the AA to get a price? It might be a few hundred quid, but that doesn't seem too expensive to me for what they'll get out of it?

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Find a French speaker (PH maybe?) and get them to confirm the diagnosis. If its not worth it, consider scraping it and see what the value would be. Dont dump it - modern communications between France, UK, Germany etc means they will track you down eventually and probably drop a large fine, so not advisable.

I broke down in France once - AA organised collection and recovery of car to a local dealer and a hire car for me to get back to the UK. Authorised the repair to the car and collected it two weeks later. Cost a few quid to sort out, but actually cheaper to have the repair on the continent than it would have been in the UK - so all up broken even.

oOTomOo

594 posts

220 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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esuuv said:
Walk away from it, fly home and buy a new car.
I'd be looking at doing this ^

Mate had a bike die in Germany, they hired a van and took the bike back to the UK in that - not as easy with a car.

ETA: When I say 'walk away' I'd be looking to scrap it over there or similar.

Edited by oOTomOo on Wednesday 15th September 11:39

essayer

10,410 posts

223 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Get it trailered to a VAG specialist for a quote, I can't have thought it would be worth just dumping it in France

The problem should easily be diagnosable, how did it overheat, where did the coolant go, does it still run, etc

illmonkey

19,814 posts

227 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Get someone with a policy that covers them (not the car) to fly out and get it recovered?


TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Surely you can't just leave the car in France? It either has to be officially scrapped in England, or SORN. You can't just leave it there and expect the authorities to clear it up?!

esuuv

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1,420 posts

234 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Sorry - I didn't actually mean just lock it and wonder off, littering on a grand scale!!

I meant leave it with the mechanic / give it to someone etc - then obviously sort the paperwork when they get home.

fulham911club

2,046 posts

271 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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esuuv said:
Apparently its been running a bit rough for a while – drove it down on Saturday – on Sunday after being driven 2 or 3k its lost all its coolant and stopped,
So the car hasn't been running well for a while and he just drove down to the south of France in it! Sounds like a prize idiot.

Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Ouch!

I guess he needs to get
a quote for a tow back to Blighty
a quote for the engine work
an idea of what the car is worth broken / fixed

And then take it from there.

PottyMouth

470 posts

225 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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The AA use Ontime Recovery for their vehicle repatriations.

0870 4607999

South of France will cost you about 3000 quid all in for return to a UK address.

BluePurpleRed

1,138 posts

255 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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deleted... misunderstood

Edited by BluePurpleRed on Wednesday 15th September 11:49

Bill

58,634 posts

284 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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What's the car worth? It must be a few K?

Get a written quote to fix it from the current garage, post it here for translation and get a comparable quote in the UK. Get a quote for delivery home.

Do maths, decide on cheapest/best option.

It can't be worth dumping over there, surely?

essayer

10,410 posts

223 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Do they still have those car transporter trains in France?
e: they do. Brive to Paris
Then Paris to Calais, push it on the ferry, then AA recovery in the UK?

Edited by essayer on Wednesday 15th September 11:49

Bill

58,634 posts

284 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Or get a VAG engine from the breakers and drive home....

E55 Max

1,216 posts

201 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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I had a similar problem with an L322 Range Rover, it decided that it was time to recreate the Angel Falls outside a restaurant. I spent most of the meal with the French equivalent of the yellow pages and my phone.
Half an hour later I had arranged recovery, the next day I went ot the garage and arranged for it to go to a Land Rover garage.
2 Days later I had the car back with a new radiator and various other bits, the upside was that it was infinitly cheaper than it would have been over here. The even bigger upside was that we could relax by the pool for a day insead of visiting Tourist traps and old villages as the OH has a mind to do!

So all is not lost, but the above only really works is you can out shrug and out gesticulate the locals whilst speaking their language....it does get results as they normally treat the Non lingo speaking Anglais with disdain.

slipstream 1985

13,755 posts

208 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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buy an banger over there and tow it back to the uk. or buy a trailer as well and at least you can sell the trailer when your back here..

eltax91

10,756 posts

235 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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I paid £4k last year for the wife's 52 plate A3 diesel. On double that mileage, so gotta be worth about that same value for the lower mileage car? Must be worth fixing over there.

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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slipstream 1985 said:
buy an banger over there and tow it back to the uk. or buy a trailer as well and at least you can sell the trailer when your back here..
I like this idea. Turns it all into a fun thing.

Roo

11,504 posts

236 months

Wednesday 15th September 2010
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Drop lowdrag an email. He helped me out when I needed advice whilst in France. He may be able to help.

Oh, and post this in the France forum as well.