EU Spat - quality

[hornetrider]

Telegraph said:

Nicolas Sarkozy has sparked a bitter EU row by suggesting that the European Commissioner who compared his Roma policy to Nazi deportations should offer to host expelled gipsies in her native country of Luxembourg.

Great article!

[supersingle]

I'm sure we'll welcome them here if nobody else wants them.

[hornetrider]

I'm surprised they didn't evict them via Sangatte. Nevertheless, it does seem a rather unseemly policy and a less than diplomatic response from Sarkozy. Interesting to see how this one pans out.

[Spiritual_Beggar]

I saw this.

It did make me chuckle.

Now, where did I put that Popcorn

[Chris_w666]

Why is it that the French appear to be quite happy with their country, and their government seem to realise that they need to get rid of people that either don't belong or don't wish to live by their rules. In the UK the gypsies would have been fasttracked to the top of social housing registers and then given some cash for food and to set up a car wash.

[JagLover]

hornetrider said:

it does seem a rather unseemly policy

What is unseemingly is that governments are prevented from dealing with such people by the 'human rights' industry.

[hornetrider]

JagLover said:

hornetrider said:

it does seem a rather unseemly policy

What is unseemingly is that governments are prevented from dealing with such people by the 'human rights' industry.

I've been reading the Guardian too much since the Times went behind the paywall haven't I. Please forgive me.

[Tsippy]

hornetrider said:

JagLover said:

hornetrider said:

it does seem a rather unseemly policy

What is unseemingly is that governments are prevented from dealing with such people by the 'human rights' industry.

I've been reading the Guardian too much since the Times went behind the paywall haven't I. Please forgive me.

He needs 5 doses of Daily Mail, STAT!

[Digga]

As an onwer of various business premises and land, I find Mr Sarkozy's comment refreshing. I tire of hearing how 'we' are not allowed to move travellers on - irrespective of damage and pollution they are causing - from our property and being told that 'they have right' too.

There are some genuine travellers out there, but there's at least as much, if not more, thieving scamming, fly-tipping scum and if those bleeding-heart lefties like them so much, then why don't they invite the pikeys to camp on their front gardens?

[Hugo a Gogo]

sorry, kick out illegals, all well and good, kick out criminal foreigners, fine

kick out people because you've decided that they belong to some group who are 'mostly' criminals - very dodgy

[mcdjl]

It sounds to me as though while the Reding woman has said that its wrong to kick the Roma out the rest of Luxembourg agrees with the French stance and doesn't want them either, just a slightly disconnected talking head in the EU commission- no surprise really.

[Digga]

Hugo a Gogo said:

kick out people because you've decided that they belong to some group who are 'mostly' criminals - very dodgy

Show me a travellers occupation that doesn't leave behind excrement, litter and 40 odd cubic yards of conifer cuttings.... Aside from the 'coincidental' rise in pilfering and scamming that any (tame) Police officer will (carefully) admit often acompanties said visits.

I agree, it all smacks a bit of genocide, but on the other hand there is a very fine line between being tollerant - which to an extent we ought to be - and allowing criminals to opt out of the society they prey on and despoil.

Edited by Digga on Thursday 16th September 10:18

[Bing o]

Hugo a Gogo said:

sorry, kick out illegals, all well and good, kick out criminal foreigners, fine

kick out people because you've decided that they belong to some group who are 'mostly' criminals - very dodgy

Sadly, few of us seem to recall how the persecution of minorities started and what it turned into. Some depressing views on here.

[elster]

Bing o said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

sorry, kick out illegals, all well and good, kick out criminal foreigners, fine

kick out people because you've decided that they belong to some group who are 'mostly' criminals - very dodgy

Sadly, few of us seem to recall how the persecution of minorities started and what it turned into. Some depressing views on here.

Already... it is a bit soon to bring in the Hitler comparison surely.

[Bing o]

elster said:

Bing o said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

sorry, kick out illegals, all well and good, kick out criminal foreigners, fine

kick out people because you've decided that they belong to some group who are 'mostly' criminals - very dodgy

Sadly, few of us seem to recall how the persecution of minorities started and what it turned into. Some depressing views on here.

Already... it is a bit soon to bring in the Hitler comparison surely.

I was thinking more Pole Pot and the Khmer Rouge, does that absolve me of Godwin's Law?

[Chris_w666]

Hugo a Gogo said:

sorry, kick out illegals, all well and good, kick out criminal foreigners, fine

kick out people because you've decided that they belong to some group who are 'mostly' criminals - very dodgy

The trouble with stereo types and generalisation is that they often turn out to be true and based on facts.

[elster]

Bing o said:

elster said:

Bing o said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

sorry, kick out illegals, all well and good, kick out criminal foreigners, fine

kick out people because you've decided that they belong to some group who are 'mostly' criminals - very dodgy

Sadly, few of us seem to recall how the persecution of minorities started and what it turned into. Some depressing views on here.

Already... it is a bit soon to bring in the Hitler comparison surely.

I was thinking more Pole Pot and the Khmer Rouge, does that absolve me of Godwin's Law?

Keep calm and carry on. For now.

I do have an eye on you though.

anyway if everyone is so bothered by travellers why don't they charge them a daily fee just like tax that is collected.

[V88Dicky]

Digga said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

kick out people because you've decided that they belong to some group who are 'mostly' criminals - very dodgy

Show me a travellers occupation that doesn't leave behind excrement, litter and 40 odd cubic yards of conifer cuttings.... Aside from the 'coincidental' rise in pilfering and scamming that any (tame) Police officer will (carefully) admit often acompanties said visits.

I agree, it all smacks a bit of genocide, but on the other hand there is a very fine line between being tollerant - which to an extent we ought to be - and allowing criminals to opt out of the society they prey on and despoil.

Edited by Digga on Thursday 16th September 10:18

And I thought they were just being deported back to their sthole country!?

[Hugo a Gogo]

Chris_w666 said:

The trouble with stereo types and generalisation is that they often turn out to be true and based on facts.

would you be happy with saying "people in jail are just 'often' guilty"?

[ewenm]

Chris_w666 said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

sorry, kick out illegals, all well and good, kick out criminal foreigners, fine

kick out people because you've decided that they belong to some group who are 'mostly' criminals - very dodgy

The trouble with stereo types and generalisation is that they often turn out to be true and based on facts.

In that case, gather the evidence and kick them out then. If the facts are there, no problem.