OPC replacing PCCBs for steel - anyone had this done?
OPC replacing PCCBs for steel - anyone had this done?
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996GT2

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239 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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After ringing around yesterday for quotes to put steels on my GT2 the OPC came in with the best quote!

I'm not really interested in Alcons etc as my track driving style isn't aggressive enough to need motorsport brakes.


Has anyone else had this done at an OPC? I'm just wondering which discs they'll use due to the size of the PCCBs and the fact that steels were never offered on the GT2.



thegoose

8,077 posts

239 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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I know of a GT3 that had this done - it was being sold by an OPC and the technician dropped a PCCB disc and chipped it. Instead of replacing the pair of discs (circa £10k) they swapped for steel, but in doing so also had to replace all the calipers to the correct (red) ones.

Do check that the PCCB (yellow) calipers will be OK with whatever discs & pads they are fitting (I know you can get aftermarket steel discs that fit the yellow calipers but not sure about genuine).

Phooey

13,826 posts

198 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Purely out of interest - how much would an OPC charge to supply and fit *1* ceramic disc? Do they have to be bought and fitted in pairs?

B16 FYS

1,930 posts

237 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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996GT2 said:
After ringing around yesterday for quotes to put steels on my GT2 the OPC came in with the best quote!

I'm not really interested in Alcons etc as my track driving style isn't aggressive enough to need motorsport brakes.


Has anyone else had this done at an OPC? I'm just wondering which discs they'll use due to the size of the PCCBs and the fact that steels were never offered on the GT2.
Gav,

Call Fearnsport about it as they`ve done many and know the score

996GT2

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Thursday 16th September 2010
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Phooey said:
Purely out of interest - how much would an OPC charge to supply and fit *1* ceramic disc? Do they have to be bought and fitted in pairs?
They wanted £12,000 to do all 4 discs, don't think that included pads. Whilst the PCCBs are good, they're not £10,000 better than steels.


996GT2

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Thursday 16th September 2010
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B16 FYS said:
996GT2 said:
After ringing around yesterday for quotes to put steels on my GT2 the OPC came in with the best quote!

I'm not really interested in Alcons etc as my track driving style isn't aggressive enough to need motorsport brakes.


Has anyone else had this done at an OPC? I'm just wondering which discs they'll use due to the size of the PCCBs and the fact that steels were never offered on the GT2.
Gav,

Call Fearnsport about it as they`ve done many and know the score
Cheers mate.

I spoke to JZM yesterday and they offered Alcon replacements for around £3600. Not sure I can take the time to get to FS as I need the car ready for Spa in 2 weeks and I'm pretty busy until then. The OPC is 15 mins away.



Edited by 996GT2 on Thursday 16th September 11:05

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Phooey said:
Purely out of interest - how much would an OPC charge to supply and fit *1* ceramic disc? Do they have to be bought and fitted in pairs?
The later generation discs should last for a huge mileage, so to replace 'one' seems odd. If it has been damaged, then it should be an insurance claim.

Phooey

13,826 posts

198 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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996GT2 said:
Phooey said:
Purely out of interest - how much would an OPC charge to supply and fit *1* ceramic disc? Do they have to be bought and fitted in pairs?
They wanted £12,000 to do all 4 discs, don't think that included pads. Whilst the PCCBs are good, they're not £10,000 better than steels.
yikes

thegoose

8,077 posts

239 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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996GT2 said:
They wanted £12,000 to do all 4 discs, don't think that included pads. Whilst the PCCBs are good, they're not £10,000 better than steels.
Sounds like they've come down in price a bit or GT2's are cheaper (seems unlikely) than GT3's, which used to be circa £3000+VAT each for GT3 MKII discs (provided the old disc was undamaged and hence exhangeable), plus £350+VAT for pads, plus fitting. Those prices are from late 2005.

Another thought is to try Mark at Ninemeister - for the last couple of years they've been testing replacement ceramic discs which cost a LOT less than the Porsche ones. 01925 242342. smile

911perv

1,415 posts

210 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Same as Gen 1 997 GT3 discs, available for about £250 a pop, Ceramics are £2900 a pop!! Not available xchange anymore, new only

Edited by 911perv on Thursday 16th September 11:38

996GT2

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Thursday 16th September 2010
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911perv said:
Same as Gen 1 997 GT3 discs, available for about £250 a pop, Ceramics are £2900 a pop!! Not available xchange anymore, new only

Edited by 911perv on Thursday 16th September 11:38
That'll be it then. They're doing all 4 discs and pads fitted for under 2k.


My ceramics are still usable, wondering whether or not to try and sell them (rears are very good), keep them until I sell the car or make them into some kind of artwork to put in the garage hehe


B16 FYS

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Phooey

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198 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Surely putting them back on the car when you come to sell it would be best? Bet they would fetch good money though scratchchin

Phooey

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996GT2

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Thursday 16th September 2010
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Phooey said:
Surely putting them back on the car when you come to sell it would be best? Bet they would fetch good money though scratchchin
That's looking like the most likely option. Fingers crossed the OPC tech will drop one of them and they'll all be replaced FOC smile

sfl993t4

202 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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I'm not sure about putting them in a box for when you sell the car.
I think that given the issues with the Mk1 Ceramics, I'd personally pay more for a car that had already had the steel conversion as the MK1 Ceramics look like a cost waiting to happen.
If the car had been upgraded to Mk2 Ceramics it would be an entirely different story, but that would have to be a warranty job or similar as I can't see any owner spending £12k on brakes.
A pity as the modern ceramics are by all reports very good, but the GT2's stock brakes were from an earlier generation.


996GT2

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239 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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OPC called back earlier and said that they'd need to put the red calipers on, apparantly they've not done this before!

Looks like I might go for the Alcons after all.

Wills2

29,653 posts

204 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Out of interest how long should a set of ceramics last assuming no track days and just fast road driving?

At 12k for a set I would hope over 150,000 miles. I saw pictures on here (I think) of a Turbo with PTV & ceramics that Tim Harvey managed to trash in one day....yikes

_gez_

1,013 posts

223 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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I'm not sure that is correct. Plenty of people have gone to steels without changing calipers. Did they give a reason?

gtphile

191 posts

194 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Put Performance friction GT3 discs on front (yellow calipers will work fine, they are exactly the same!)

Then 996 GT3 steel discs rear, using GT3 pads also.

Parts would be approx £ 1300 I would think, with about 3.5 hours labour.

Only trouble is you need to run PF pads to fit the discs, but the compound is pretty good now, less dust than before.

It will give you pretty much the stopping power, although not the fade resistance if on track.