Elderberries?
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colonel c

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8,044 posts

267 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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We have an abundance of elderberries in the back garden this year. Mrs colonel c got it into her head that she would use them to make cakes and things with.
I warned that no good would come of it but.. well you know what women are like.
So last night she made some elderberry cakes and also some sort of elderberry juice drink. While the cakes were cooling off she decided to have a taste of the juice. She thought it was very nice indeed. However less than a half an hour later she was on the loo with sever diarrhea and feeling decidedly unwell.
She is feeling much better now. I have suggested leaving that sort of thing to ex-hippie types but she believed she was just unlucky to have a bad reaction.
However the cakes are likely to end up as bird food.

GPT

2,744 posts

208 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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According to Wikipedia:

The leaves, twigs, branches, seeds and roots contain a cyanide producing glycoside. Ingesting any of these parts in sufficient quantity can cause a toxic build up of cyanide in the body. In addition, the unripened berry, flowers and "umbels" contain a toxic alkaloid.

Due to the possibility of cyanide poisoning, children should be discouraged from making whistles, slingshots or other toys from elderberry wood. In addition, "herbal teas" made with elderberry leaves (which contain cyanide inducing glycosides) should be treated with high caution. However, ripe berries (pulp and skin) are safe to eat.

littlegreenfairy

10,134 posts

249 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Who do you think you are (the TV programme) was talking about some distant relative of Alexander Armstrong who was poisoned by Elder Water.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

228 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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My Mum makes Elderberry wine in worryingly vast quantities.

Edited by Dr Doofenshmirtz on Thursday 16th September 15:18

ShadownINja

79,894 posts

310 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Don't they sell Elderberry cordial these days? :-S

Dilligaf10

2,431 posts

238 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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ShadownINja said:
Don't they sell Elderberry cordial these days? :-S
Elder FLOWER cordial

ShadownINja

79,894 posts

310 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Oopsie.

tonyvid

9,889 posts

271 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Cordial and, especially, wine are yummy. Leave the rest for the birds and bees.

Bill

58,302 posts

283 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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tonyvid said:
Cordial and, especially, wine are yummy. Leave the rest for the birds and bees.
And they're made with the flowers.

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

226 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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Bill said:
tonyvid said:
Cordial and, especially, wine are yummy. Leave the rest for the birds and bees.
And they're made with the flowers.
Cordial is. Wine is made from both the flowers, and the berries.
Both are very fine. You're lucky to have a good crop, ours is a washout this year cry

Simpo Two

92,531 posts

293 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
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The Black Flash said:
Wine is made from both the flowers, and the berries.
Yep, elderberry is red, elderflower is white.

Remember that many if not all noxious alkaloids etc are broken down by cooking or during fermentation - it's only the raw stuff you have to be careful about.

kfozz

94 posts

243 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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I've eaten raw eldeberries since I was a kid and I'm in my 50s now and still alive and kicking so have I got an alien digestive system or do you have to eat large amounts to get bad effects

stackmonkey

5,084 posts

277 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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Simpo Two said:
The Black Flash said:
Wine is made from both the flowers, and the berries.
Yep, elderberry is red, elderflower is white.

Remember that many if not all noxious alkaloids etc are broken down by cooking or during fermentation - it's only the raw stuff you have to be careful about.
yes

and raw elderberries are pretty awful tasting anyway, so don't worry.

SwanJack

1,955 posts

300 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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Picked a load today and made spiced elderberries ready for the Christmas Ham lick

Simpo Two

92,531 posts

293 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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stackmonkey said:
and raw elderberries are pretty awful tasting anyway, so don't worry.
Try a raw sloe!

I had a friend (note past tense) who liked sloe gin, so I gave him a sloe to eat hehe

tonyvid

9,889 posts

271 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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Simpo Two said:
stackmonkey said:
and raw elderberries are pretty awful tasting anyway, so don't worry.
Try a raw sloe!

I had a friend (note past tense) who liked sloe gin, so I gave him a sloe to eat hehe
I regularly see a Chinese woman out walking when I am out with the dogs - she had a bagful of sloes and I mentioned sloe gin(yummy) but she was off to make blueberry muffins....I thought it best to warn her!

MKnight702

3,418 posts

242 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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tonyvid said:
I regularly see a Chinese woman out walking when I am out with the dogs - she had a bagful of sloes and I mentioned sloe gin(yummy) but she was off to make blueberry muffins....I thought it best to warn her!
My MIL was telling us the other day about all the blueberries they had seen the other day. I wouldn't recommend eating the pie but the gin's OK!

tonyvid

9,889 posts

271 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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MKnight702 said:
tonyvid said:
I regularly see a Chinese woman out walking when I am out with the dogs - she had a bagful of sloes and I mentioned sloe gin(yummy) but she was off to make blueberry muffins....I thought it best to warn her!
My MIL was telling us the other day about all the blueberries they had seen the other day. I wouldn't recommend eating the pie but the gin's OK!
hehe

It is a fantastic year for sloes, get out and get picking for those winter warmers.

muppetdave

2,118 posts

253 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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Do you reckon they're ready yet? I was thinking to hang on for a frost or two, but am nervous of my local stash here getting nabbed!

tonyvid

9,889 posts

271 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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muppetdave said:
Do you reckon they're ready yet? I was thinking to hang on for a frost or two, but am nervous of my local stash here getting nabbed!
You might have to wait a few months these days! I picked mine last Oct and then froze them for a few days - they were fine lick