My New Car - Alfa 156 SW JTDm Veloce
My New Car - Alfa 156 SW JTDm Veloce
Author
Discussion

Alfahorn

Original Poster:

7,825 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
quotequote all
Got this yesterday, the first diesel car I've ever bought. On the way home I was getting about 45+mpg, it's so quiet on the move and handles beautifully.

Love it already, just needs a damn good polish to get rid of some swirling on the paintwork.






carlove

7,901 posts

195 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
quotequote all
nicecool
i love Alfas

Killer2005

20,562 posts

256 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
quotequote all
Lovely thumbup

Tonberry

2,282 posts

220 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
quotequote all
Gorgeous.

Any chance of a few more pics and some info on history spec and price etc?

I ask because one of these are on the shortlist.

Alfahorn

Original Poster:

7,825 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
quotequote all
Tonberry said:
Gorgeous.

Any chance of a few more pics and some info on history spec and price etc?

I ask because one of these are on the shortlist.
Hi, I would rather not talk about the price, it wasn't cheap. Finding Diesel Sportwagon is not very easy, certainly if you want a veloce, leather and low miles.

The car is a 2004 model with the 140hp engine and 6 speed gearbox. The colour is Luxor Black (solid) which is unusual as most black 156's I've seen are metallic black. The multispokes were an extra as was the momo black leather interior.

Overall condition is very good, there are no parking dings, however the bonnet needs a bit of work as there are some scratches and stone chips that need dealing with.

On run a I'm getting 44mpg which I'm very pleased with. Because the car is a veloce it has the sports suspension, it rides well and corners flat. I'm impressed with the engine which is lovely and quiet on a run, bit taxi-ish at idle though and surprisingly revvy for a diesel.


Tonberry

2,282 posts

220 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
quotequote all
Alfahorn said:
Tonberry said:
Gorgeous.

Any chance of a few more pics and some info on history spec and price etc?

I ask because one of these are on the shortlist.
Hi, I would rather not talk about the price, it wasn't cheap. Finding Diesel Sportwagon is not very easy, certainly if you want a veloce, leather and low miles.

The car is a 2004 model with the 140hp engine and 6 speed gearbox. The colour is Luxor Black (solid) which is unusual as most black 156's I've seen are metallic black. The multispokes were an extra as was the momo black leather interior.

Overall condition is very good, there are no parking dings, however the bonnet needs a bit of work as there are some scratches and stone chips that need dealing with.

On run a I'm getting 44mpg which I'm very pleased with. Because the car is a veloce it has the sports suspension, it rides well and corners flat. I'm impressed with the engine which is lovely and quiet on a run, bit taxi-ish at idle though and surprisingly revvy for a diesel.
Totally understandable and thanks for the reply.

The only thing that concerns me is 44mpg....on a run. I'm guessing this isn't a steady 70mph run is it, as that is a little on the low side to be honest. I know the reports on the Alfa diesel's economy figures aren't brilliant, but I'd expect that from the 2.4JTD - possibly 50mpg from the 1.9.

I'm looking at a facelift 54 plate with the 150bhp engine ideally with less than 100,000 miles on the clock for about £4000. Probably wishful thinking by the sounds of it.

Have you looked into a remap and maybe an LSD?




Alfahorn

Original Poster:

7,825 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
quotequote all
Tonberry said:
Alfahorn said:
Tonberry said:
Gorgeous.

Any chance of a few more pics and some info on history spec and price etc?

I ask because one of these are on the shortlist.
Hi, I would rather not talk about the price, it wasn't cheap. Finding Diesel Sportwagon is not very easy, certainly if you want a veloce, leather and low miles.

The car is a 2004 model with the 140hp engine and 6 speed gearbox. The colour is Luxor Black (solid) which is unusual as most black 156's I've seen are metallic black. The multispokes were an extra as was the momo black leather interior.

Overall condition is very good, there are no parking dings, however the bonnet needs a bit of work as there are some scratches and stone chips that need dealing with.

On run a I'm getting 44mpg which I'm very pleased with. Because the car is a veloce it has the sports suspension, it rides well and corners flat. I'm impressed with the engine which is lovely and quiet on a run, bit taxi-ish at idle though and surprisingly revvy for a diesel.
Totally understandable and thanks for the reply.

The only thing that concerns me is 44mpg....on a run. I'm guessing this isn't a steady 70mph run is it, as that is a little on the low side to be honest. I know the reports on the Alfa diesel's economy figures aren't brilliant, but I'd expect that from the 2.4JTD - possibly 50mpg from the 1.9.

I'm looking at a facelift 54 plate with the 150bhp engine ideally with less than 100,000 miles on the clock for about £4000. Probably wishful thinking by the sounds of it.

Have you looked into a remap and maybe an LSD?
Compared to my 156 2.0TS , 44 Mpg is very pleasing, certainly not a steady 70!

Don't be hung up on find a 150hp model, I have driven both and there isn't a great difference. I will look at a remap and Q2 next year, plan to have the car for quite some time so won't mind spending a few bob on it.

I'm sure you'll get a saloon for £4k, not many SW's for sale at that kind of money.

robsco

7,875 posts

204 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
quotequote all
Lovely cloud9

TIPPER

2,955 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
quotequote all
Alfahorn, are you saying there's not a lot of (real world) difference between the 115 and 140 bhp models? Curious as one of these is on my list.

Alfahorn

Original Poster:

7,825 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
quotequote all
TIPPER said:
Alfahorn, are you saying there's not a lot of (real world) difference between the 115 and 140 bhp models? Curious as one of these is on my list.
No, I'm saying there's not a lot of difference between the 140 and 150hp models. The 115 is an 8v, it's a fine engine, however the 140hp is superior in terms of performance, refinement and has the 6 speed box which the 8v doesn't.

TIPPER

2,955 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th September 2010
quotequote all
Cheers, I wondered as the bhp and torque differences seem big enough to make themselves felt. 140/150 it'll be then (possibly!).

Alfahorn

Original Poster:

7,825 posts

236 months

Friday 17th September 2010
quotequote all
TIPPER said:
Cheers, I wondered as the bhp and torque differences seem big enough to make themselves felt. 140/150 it'll be then (possibly!).
Do it. Fantastic cars, get a wagon though more desireable and easy to resell.

CinqAbarth

566 posts

193 months

Friday 17th September 2010
quotequote all
Tonberry said:
The only thing that concerns me is 44mpg....on a run. I'm guessing this isn't a steady 70mph run is it, as that is a little on the low side to be honest. I know the reports on the Alfa diesel's economy figures aren't brilliant, but I'd expect that from the 2.4JTD - possibly 50mpg from the 1.9.

I'm looking at a facelift 54 plate with the 150bhp engine ideally with less than 100,000 miles on the clock for about £4000. Probably wishful thinking by the sounds of it.

Have you looked into a remap and maybe an LSD?
44mpg sounds fine from a car that size with that kind of performance - it's about what I used to average in a Passat2.0TDI-140.

Late model 156 diesels, and especially Sportwagons, are very sought after cars, so you won't be finding any bargains out there.

Red Firecracker

5,339 posts

255 months

Friday 17th September 2010
quotequote all
Bargains are out there but you jut need to be a bit careful.

However, it is probably true that if you get a cheaper car you'll end up paying the same as a more expensive car once you've done the initial maintenance.

CinqAbarth

566 posts

193 months

Friday 17th September 2010
quotequote all
Red Firecracker said:
Bargains are out there but you jut need to be a bit careful.

However, it is probably true that if you get a cheaper car you'll end up paying the same as a more expensive car once you've done the initial maintenance.
Cheap / bargain 156s are largely to be avoided.

It's not that they're expensive cars to run, just that many owners bought into the image / lifestyle accessory thing with them, rather than buying them knowing about their maintenance requirements.

Ropey 156s are worth pennies - good ones are, at worst, holding value and there are even signs that they're appreciating.

Alfahorn

Original Poster:

7,825 posts

236 months

Friday 17th September 2010
quotequote all
CinqAbarth said:
Red Firecracker said:
Bargains are out there but you jut need to be a bit careful.

However, it is probably true that if you get a cheaper car you'll end up paying the same as a more expensive car once you've done the initial maintenance.
Cheap / bargain 156s are largely to be avoided.

It's not that they're expensive cars to run, just that many owners bought into the image / lifestyle accessory thing with them, rather than buying them knowing about their maintenance requirements.

Ropey 156s are worth pennies - good ones are, at worst, holding value and there are even signs that they're appreciating.
I agree completely with the last point, as far as wagons are concerned anyway.


Red Firecracker

5,339 posts

255 months

Friday 17th September 2010
quotequote all
I should have expanded my point by saying that I do own one and did go in with eyes open etc, but I still maintain the point that bargains are out there, and yes, whilst some of them are dogs, some of them are genuine, just like any other car in the market place, but I think we're in agreement anyway.

Much like buying an S1 Elise (I am led to believe), it'll end up costing you 10k ish once you've got it to where you want it.

I love my Alfa, I totally 'get' them. Would I have another? Nope. biggrin

peej1981

12 posts

197 months

Friday 17th September 2010
quotequote all
Love the alfa i really wanted one in black but like you said very hard to come by a 156SW JTD so couldnt be too fussy about the colour, mine is quite a rare pearlcent silver, thinking about selling my 156 SW 2.4JTD (150bhp) to fund a 159 JTD if anyone is intrested?







Drop me an email if intrested

CinqAbarth

566 posts

193 months

Friday 17th September 2010
quotequote all
We have a Sportwagon - TSpark Selespeed, though. In black, with tan Momo leather.

Absolutely stunning car, even though we had to have the Selespeed replaced under warranty last year.

(It's a 56 registered, but 02 built car.... so the best of both worlds, like yours - original body with facelift interior)

Alfahorn

Original Poster:

7,825 posts

236 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
quotequote all
CinqAbarth said:
We have a Sportwagon - TSpark Selespeed, though. In black, with tan Momo leather.

Absolutely stunning car, even though we had to have the Selespeed replaced under warranty last year.

(It's a 56 registered, but 02 built car.... so the best of both worlds, like yours - original body with facelift interior)
I have one of each. A 2.0TS Saloon and the JTD Wagon, love 156's and very happy with the two that I own. I really like the facelift, very agresive front end. My mate has a 320D and I was following him the other day, he said the car looks really menacing with the headlights on.