Man jailed in RAF Tornado jet laser pen case
Man jailed in RAF Tornado jet laser pen case
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The real Apache

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Flintstone

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Hope so. Cretin.

ApexJimi

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Saturday 18th September 2010
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Are they seriously suggesting that if you want to scupper a fast jet from landing, all you need is a eastern european fruit picker with a laser pen?

So, multi-million pound Tornado versus £4 laser pointer?





Edited by ApexJimi on Saturday 18th September 13:59

The real Apache

Original Poster:

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Would you like to be the passenger in a jet whose pilot was being zapped with a laser?

It's hardly in the same league as a SAM but it's distracting the crew when their workload is particularly high

Flintstone

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ApexJimi. Give it a go. Select a stretch of ground with no other people around, get your car up to 120-130 mph, shine a laser pen into your eyes.

Let us know how it goes.

gingerpaul

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Does anyone on here know what law has been broken by doing this? Just curious.

ninja-lewis

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When the laser hits the windscreen, scratches in the screen diffract the light in every direction. The laser doesn't need to be held on aircraft - just catching it for a second will dazzle the pilot. It's even be used by opposition fans to blind players during sports matches.

Plenty of footage on youtube including this footage of a police helicopter.

Some of the ships in the Falklands were fitted with lasers to dazzle Argentine pilots during raids - by dazzling them for just a second they could miss the target or crash into the sea (considering they were flying very low and fast, any wrong movement would have been fatal). Hence why pilots on forums like PPRuNe vehemently attack laser pointers.

Flintstone

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gingerpaul said:
Does anyone on here know what law has been broken by doing this? Just curious.
Section 73 of the Air Navigation Order, deals with endangering aircraft.

Condi

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Can we deport him? As an EU citizen he has "rights" to be here.......

FourWheelDrift

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Shame they weren't carrying laser guided bombs, could have followed the trace back to the source.

Yertis

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Saturday 18th September 2010
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I think the point Apex was making was that it doesn't bode well for Tornado survivability if they can be endangered by a piece of kit costing £4.

markmullen

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FourWheelDrift said:
Shame they weren't carrying laser guided bombs, could have followed the trace back to the source.
I was just thinking the same, oh, you've got a laser pen? I've got a 2000lb laser glide bomb. Best of luck.

ApexJimi

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Yertis said:
I think the point Apex was making was that it doesn't bode well for Tornado survivability if they can be endangered by a piece of kit costing £4.
Yes, that was pretty much my point, although my post was borne of increduility that a jet designed to operate in a war theater can be endangered by a £4 laser pen.



coley20

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Flintstone said:
ApexJimi. Give it a go. Select a stretch of ground with no other people around, get your car up to 120-130 mph, shine a laser pen into your eyes.

Let us know how it goes.
hahaha

ApexJimi

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coley20 said:
Flintstone said:
ApexJimi. Give it a go. Select a stretch of ground with no other people around, get your car up to 120-130 mph, shine a laser pen into your eyes.

Let us know how it goes.
hahaha
Yes, hilarious.

Except, he's making the comparison between me driving a car and shining a laser pen into my eyes, presumably from arms length.

I'm talking about the situation being discussed in the original post - a highly trained RAF jet pilot flying a multi-million pound combat jet.

Ah yes, I can see the similarities. hahaha


Jackleman

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I can sort of sympathise with the chap a bit. I had a really long day on the road planned for Wed's this week, got a relatively early night as I knew it was going to be a long day. Our house got buzzed by a low flying RAD Chinook at 2.00am in the morning waking everyone up and of course knowing I had to get up early the next morning I struggled to get back to sleep. Total wkers.

anonymous-user

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Saturday 18th September 2010
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Jackleman said:
I can sort of sympathise with the chap a bit. I had a really long day on the road planned for Wed's this week, got a relatively early night as I knew it was going to be a long day. Our house got buzzed by a low flying RAD Chinook at 2.00am in the morning waking everyone up and of course knowing I had to get up early the next morning I struggled to get back to sleep. Total wkers.
Yeah, I bet they do it on purpose. I mean, who needs to train for operational night flying? rolleyes
(Go on, say it.....Go and do it in Scotland or somewhere, and why do it in the same place all the time and it was SO low you could read the label in the pilot's underpants and they LAUGHED at me as they went over and....and.....and......

ApexJimi said:
coley20 said:
Flintstone said:
ApexJimi. Give it a go. Select a stretch of ground with no other people around, get your car up to 120-130 mph, shine a laser pen into your eyes.

Let us know how it goes.
hahaha
Yes, hilarious.

Except, he's making the comparison between me driving a car and shining a laser pen into my eyes, presumably from arms length.

I'm talking about the situation being discussed in the original post - a highly trained RAF jet pilot flying a multi-million pound combat jet.

Ah yes, I can see the similarities. hahaha
It may be a multi-million pound aircraft and a highly trained crew, but neither were intended to take on tts with laser pens at the end of the runway.
I doubt either of them would come off particularly well in a fight with a chainsaw either - doesn't make them flawed for their intended purpose does it?
Less likely to be an issue at operational heights/speeds, but it's pretty easy to target an aircraft on short finals.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 18th September 17:44

Flintstone

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ApexJimi said:
coley20 said:
Flintstone said:
ApexJimi. Give it a go. Select a stretch of ground with no other people around, get your car up to 120-130 mph, shine a laser pen into your eyes.

Let us know how it goes.
hahaha
Yes, hilarious.

Except, he's making the comparison between me driving a car and shining a laser pen into my eyes, presumably from arms length.

I'm talking about the situation being discussed in the original post - a highly trained RAF jet pilot flying a multi-million pound combat jet.

Ah yes, I can see the similarities. hahaha
If you find a way to train eyeballs to become immune to laser you'd make a fortune wink

XG332

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"insert facepalm"
If your going to point a laser at a plane. Dont point it at a fking RAF jet.

NismoGT

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The real Apache said:
His human rights will be violated.