Sterile Zones - WTF Goodwood !!!!
Discussion
You've got a great place against or close to the fence trackside, giving a great view, at a great event, watching great cars on track ......
and what then happens? ...... the thin line of crowd close to the fence are then moved out of the area during the air displays.
And DON'T tell me it's 'Health and Safety'. If the worst happened and a 'plane did come down, the chances are that it
wouldn't come down in the thin lines that make up the Sterile Zones.
And you CAN'T argue that it would; because whilst the thin line of crowd has been moved away, there is still track action just some 25 metres
away from the fence in one direction, AND the road the other side of the hedge (25 metres the other way) is still open as usual.
So you are either saying that an out of control 'plane would crash within in a 50 metre width band
, or it's OK to hit the people on track or innocently using the road.
To add insult to injury, the Sterile Zones are NOT opened promtly after the 'planes have landed, so you miss even more
track action for NO REASON AT ALL!
and what then happens? ...... the thin line of crowd close to the fence are then moved out of the area during the air displays.
And DON'T tell me it's 'Health and Safety'. If the worst happened and a 'plane did come down, the chances are that it
wouldn't come down in the thin lines that make up the Sterile Zones.
And you CAN'T argue that it would; because whilst the thin line of crowd has been moved away, there is still track action just some 25 metres
away from the fence in one direction, AND the road the other side of the hedge (25 metres the other way) is still open as usual.
So you are either saying that an out of control 'plane would crash within in a 50 metre width band
, or it's OK to hit the people on track or innocently using the road.To add insult to injury, the Sterile Zones are NOT opened promtly after the 'planes have landed, so you miss even more
track action for NO REASON AT ALL!
Eric Mc said:
If you saw the path Spitfire PV202 took as it crashed on landing in April 2000, you might understand why these zones are now immposed at Goodwood.
Saturday, 8 April, 2000, 21:51 GMT 22:51 UK
Two pilots were killed when a vintage World War II Spitfire plane crashed and caught fire while trying to land.
Crash experts are trying to find the cause of the accident which saw the fighter plane clip a tree and skid onto Goodwood airfield, West Sussex, just after 0900BST.
It clipped a tree on the boundary of the airfield which knocked it down into a bank
"It came to rest some 50 or 60 yards short of the runway."
sean11 said:
sorry but it is clearly signposted
Exactly...amnd they have been doing it for some years now. We may not like it but Goodwood have to comply and they are generally marshalled with civility and humour. I did, however, witness some berk deliberately provoking and arguing with the steward when they were closing off the zone prior to the BBMF yesterday - what a prat!
Edited by ettore on Monday 20th September 09:53
I think the added problem was that the wind had changed, so this runway had to be used instead of the normal one at the other corner of the airstrip.
This is why the new walkway to Lavent Straight (good idea) was also closed.
On the whole I think the whole thing has a very healthy attitude to H&S, been to a lot of other events which have been a waste of time after H&S have applied OTT rules.
Great day, going to do the weekend next year.
Andy
This is why the new walkway to Lavent Straight (good idea) was also closed.
On the whole I think the whole thing has a very healthy attitude to H&S, been to a lot of other events which have been a waste of time after H&S have applied OTT rules.
Great day, going to do the weekend next year.
Andy
I got upset by the inconsistency of the CAA requirement when it was first introduced but as a Lavant corner regular I time my movements so Im not heading for Fordwater when I might get stuck there. Heading for Woodcote I'll leave the circuit at Lavant and re-enter at Shell sport entrance. This is also quicker walking as naturally people keep stopping to look at the action or the GRRC paddock inside the circuit. Also you don't have to worry about the stony surface of the track (plays havoc on the old plates if used 7-8 times a day) or the tractor drivers who have been clearly told that they own the road by proxy!
I think Ray Hanna had the right idea. Best thing I have ever seen in all the years of going.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnc78LW7V1U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnc78LW7V1U
Edited by dogbucket on Monday 20th September 13:17
It always amazed me that aircraft were allowed to fly over the crowd at Goodwood revival. Following the Farnborough airshow disaster in 1952 where an aircraft broke up & the engines crashed into the crowd killing 29 no aircraft are allowed to fly over the crowd line at a UK airshow. Generally they don't like the aircraft going in the direction of the crowd too much either. I don't believe a single spectator has died as a result of an accident at a UK airshow since. I was surprised (& delighted)at the first revival in 1998 when I had two Spitfires charging down the runway towards me at about not very much ft altitude - never seen that before. I haven't been for a few years but the Sterile zones don't come as a surprise. If you want justification look up the horrific Rammstein accident in 1988.
CivicMan said:
Flight path into Goodwood?
...but what's your point? There are 3 x other runways at Goodwood i.e. this one in reverse and another at right angles to it (14/32 & 06/24) making four in total. So there are almost certainly trees on one of the approaches. Edited by RichB on Monday 20th September 22:50
Air displays at motor racing events are a bit different to air displays at airfields (or seafronts). In the latter you have a designated crowd line, usually prallel to the display axis. At a motor racing venue, the crowd will be arranged in more or less a circular pattern which will inevitably result in aircraft passing overhead the crowd at some point in their display.
Eric Mc said:
Air displays at motor racing events are a bit different to air displays at airfields (or seafronts). In the latter you have a designated crowd line, usually prallel to the display axis. At a motor racing venue, the crowd will be arranged in more or less a circular pattern which will inevitably result in aircraft passing overhead the crowd at some point in their display.
And for that reason I think it's more bother than it's worth. If I want to see planes I'd go to Duxford. Now we've got BoB 70 out of the way perhaps 'is Lordship will limit the displays to before and after the racing programme (though I won't hold my breath)RichB said:
CivicMan said:
Flight path into Goodwood?
...but what's your point? There are 3 x other runways at Goodwood i.e. this one in reverse and another at right angles to it (14/32 & 06/24) making four in total. So there are almost certainly trees on one of the approaches. Edited by RichB on Monday 20th September 22:50
In fact, if Health & Safety had their way, there'd be no spectators at all!
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