Kit cars of the future?
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Centurion07

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10,395 posts

276 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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Which cars will be they be replicating in 10, 20, 30 years time?

You can buy replicas of quite a few iconic cars nowadays i.e. Countach, Stratos, RS200, GT40, Cobra, but what do you suppose the replica market of the future will consist of?

It may not be quite as iconic as those I mentioned already (maybe it is?), but personally I'd like to see the MK2 Escort make an appearance as a space-framed special, capable of taking anything from an original x-Flow or Pinto up to a V8. It's not that originals are too expensive for most people, it's just they becoming a bit sparse these days.

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ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

202 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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Mmm good thread op, personally i think (perhaps) Lotus Elise's, if they continue with plans to move into ferrari,porsche territory it will leave alot of people wanting the type of car that Lotus's are.

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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It would be nice to see some LMP1 type cars.
eg


pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

208 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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The Audi A3 S-Line

Nobody will be able to replicate the imagine though, so they will all just be pale facsimilies of the real thing.

MGZRod

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205 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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pilchardthecat said:
The Audi A3 S-Line

Nobody will be able to replicate the imagine though, so they will all just be pale facsimilies of the real thing.
No need, they wont ever stop making them. They are that good.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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TVR Replicas a plenty I reckon.

ZOLLAR

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202 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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OT is s-line still around aint seen any posts recently!.

ZOLLAR

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Sunday 19th September 2010
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davepoth said:
TVR Replicas a plenty I reckon.
yes

pilchardthecat

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208 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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ZOLLAR said:
OT is s-line still around aint seen any posts recently!.
After a time, the moderators like to put a bullet in the head of new members who, well, aren't really.


EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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Hopefully there will be more kits that don't require bits of Sierra and Cortina.

james_gt3rs

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220 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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EDLT said:
Hopefully there will be more kits that don't require bits of Sierra and Cortina.
They'll use Focus and Mondeo instead...

eldar

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225 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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EDLT said:
Hopefully there will be more kits that don't require bits of Sierra and Cortina.
Allegro replicas based on BMW 3 seriessmile

pilchardthecat

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208 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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eldar said:
EDLT said:
Hopefully there will be more kits that don't require bits of Sierra and Cortina.
Allegro replicas based on BMW 3 seriessmile
M3 CSL with the outward appearence of an All Aggro?

yes sign me up! yes





(I'll take mine in Britsh Leyland Russett Brown please)

cymtriks

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274 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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ZOLLAR said:
davepoth said:
TVR Replicas a plenty I reckon.
yes
Does the TVR spare parts industry already allow someone to build a "new" TVR? Do the molds and chassis jigs still exist for the Tuscan, Griffith, Sagaris and Cerbera?

A US V8 might be the most realistic power plant as though there are a few S6 choices (Ford, BMW) modern high performance S6s are a bit rare and tend to be smaller than TVRs offering.

mattmoxon

5,026 posts

247 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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cymtriks said:
ZOLLAR said:
davepoth said:
TVR Replicas a plenty I reckon.
yes
Does the TVR spare parts industry already allow someone to build a "new" TVR? Do the molds and chassis jigs still exist for the Tuscan, Griffith, Sagaris and Cerbera?

A US V8 might be the most realistic power plant as though there are a few S6 choices (Ford, BMW) modern high performance S6s are a bit rare and tend to be smaller than TVRs offering.
Just bung a 5.7l LS1 V8 in it, bags of tuning potential and are dirt cheap for such a robust engine yes

vit4

3,507 posts

199 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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Centurion07 said:
It may not be quite as iconic as those I mentioned already (maybe it is?), but personally I'd like to see the MK2 Escort make an appearance as a space-framed special, capable of taking anything from an original x-Flow or Pinto up to a V8. It's not that originals are too expensive for most people, it's just they becoming a bit sparse these days.

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I do seem to recall a year or so back reading in Classic Ford mag that a company offers spaceframe MK1 Escort kits? confused Or at least, they'd done one and were considering doing more. Anyone able to substantiate that?

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

239 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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davepoth said:
TVR Replicas a plenty I reckon.
kit cars of factory built kit cars? Novel idea.

LRdriver II

1,936 posts

278 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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vit4 said:
Centurion07 said:
It may not be quite as iconic as those I mentioned already (maybe it is?), but personally I'd like to see the MK2 Escort make an appearance as a space-framed special, capable of taking anything from an original x-Flow or Pinto up to a V8. It's not that originals are too expensive for most people, it's just they becoming a bit sparse these days.

cloud9
I do seem to recall a year or so back reading in Classic Ford mag that a company offers spaceframe MK1 Escort kits? confused Or at least, they'd done one and were considering doing more. Anyone able to substantiate that?
Yup,
You can get a full fibreglass Mk1 Escort body, so I assume somebody can get a spaceframe to fit it to

On a serious note, I dont think kit cars will exist in a decade or so...the Euro-crats are doing all they can to bring the UK into line and force everybody to drive bland euro-box spam cans fueled by lentil knitted low co2 yoghurt

Roman

2,034 posts

248 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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LRdriver II said:
On a serious note, I dont think kit cars will exist in a decade or so...the Euro-crats are doing all they can to bring the UK into line and force everybody to drive bland euro-box spam cans fueled by lentil knitted low co2 yoghurt
Sadly, quite possibly this.

If not then surely those manufacturers producing Lambo replicas will start producing replicas of various hypercars such as the Veyron.

Possibly the Alfa 8c Competizione (Jaguar XK based?), BMW Z8 & Morgan Aeromax (plenty of BMW donors!) could be others due to rarity/desirability/cheap & plentiful donors & at the budget end, several mid transverse engined track day/Radical style cars.

There are very few cars desirable & rare enough to warrant commercially viable replicas really. I can't think of any modern car having the same 'desirability, rarity & value' vs 'cost & simplicity of build' ratio as a Cobra or Lotus 7.




Chris71

21,549 posts

271 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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LRdriver II said:
On a serious note, I dont think kit cars will exist in a decade or so...the Euro-crats are doing all they can to bring the UK into line.
Sadly a very likely possibility. Even now there are relatively few countries that allow kit cars. It's only the UK's rapidly tightening type-approval loopholes (i.e. IVA) that allow them to continue. Emissions are only part of the problem - you can transplant the engine from a Blue Motion Polo into a kit if you want - it'll be safety. Small companies can't afford crash testing and frankly they can't afford to engineer cars with all the modern occupant and pedestrian safety rules.

On a separate note:

shout Not all kit cars are replicas! Cars like the Ultima, the GTM Libra and the early (kit-built) Nobles were all great (original) cars in their own right. To me they're far more interesting and far more representative of the kit car industry than yet another Cobra replica.