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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

77 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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I want a good quality wireless camera to mount on my driveway to point at my motorbike and car.

I have a network in my house and intent to record onto a standalone external drive (not constant recording, just movement)

I have no cctv equipment at all at the moment so would need a complete system at the best price. My mate who s an electrician is going to fit it.

Can you advise of a system? or anything else need to consider?

Thanks

samrr

2,379 posts

251 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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I just bought a few from CCTV42 - is on PH. Speak to Henry, although not sure if they do wireless....

Yet to fit but service and advice has been good.


Mr E

22,710 posts

282 months

Monday 20th September 2010
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yammyfan said:
I want a good quality wireless camera to mount on my driveway to point at my motorbike and car.

I have a network in my house and intent to record onto a standalone external drive (not constant recording, just movement)

I have no cctv equipment at all at the moment so would need a complete system at the best price. My mate who s an electrician is going to fit it.

Can you advise of a system? or anything else need to consider?

Thanks
I had a look for almost exactly the same thing -- I wanted an external IP camera that could dump data directly to a NAS when it detected movement.

Couldn't find anything that did quite what I wanted for sensible money -- so I shall watch this thread with interest.

NDA

24,804 posts

248 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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From the little I know, 'wireless' and 'good quality' is not available.

I was looking at this a year or so ago and eventually hard wired a CCTV system. It's OK, but not brilliant - I think wireless would be much worse.

furtive

4,501 posts

302 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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AXIS wireless cctv cameras are superb

Silver

4,373 posts

249 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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Just got a quote for security cameras front and back after a burglary and two separate thefts from the front of the house. The company concerned don't do wireless as they say it doesn't give good quality and can be unreliable.

The quote is around £1500 and will cover two bullet cameras with wiring going across the top of the house and the box.

furtive

4,501 posts

302 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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Silver said:
The company concerned don't do wireless so they made up some rubbish about it to put me off
Axis wireless webcams do work, are not unreliable, and are good quality.

allgonepetetong

1,188 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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I'm interested in this too as I have a NAS which has a security camera app installed, but just to pause for thought for a minute.

If you catch the scally robbing your house with a full facial shot on your cctv camera and give the file to the police, even if they recognise him, what's the end result?

You probably won't get your stuff back, he probably won't go to prison and your space has still been violated.

What's the benefit?

furtive

4,501 posts

302 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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You'll recognise him if you see him in the street...

allgonepetetong

1,188 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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And get prosecuted for GBH for giving him the lesson he deserves. Hmmmm

Silver

4,373 posts

249 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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furtive said:
Silver said:
The company concerned don't do wireless so they made up some rubbish about it to put me off
Axis wireless webcams do work, are not unreliable, and are good quality.
OK, I don't have any real product knowledge so can't comment but I would prefer a wired system anyway so it's no skin off my nose. smile

bradders

889 posts

294 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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Professional opinion....

Have been in the industry for 15 years. Stay away from wireless analogue cameras - they can be very flaky at times. The Axis products mentioned are exceptional in quality and performance, are IP based so may be able to stream directly to your prescribed HDD, but come with a price to match (by comparison, of course). We don't carry the Axis range.

I can put you in touch with an installer in your area, if you wish - we are distributors, but don't sell directly for all the understandable reasons.

If you need any further assistance, drop me a PM.

Cheers Bradders.

sparkythecat

8,064 posts

278 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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Your 'wireless'camera is still going to need to be powered. So unless you are going to run it on batteries you will in fact be running a wire to it. If you're going to have to run a wire for power, then you may as well cable your video signal.

furtive

4,501 posts

302 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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Running a single wire to the nearest power socket is much easier than running a 2nd wire to wherever your IT equipment is located (which could be on a different floor at the other end of the house, or even in a different building if the camera is in a detached garage for example)

Having it wired also removes the flexibility of moving the camera somewhere else if you want to as well

Edited by furtive on Wednesday 22 September 10:33

Mr E

22,710 posts

282 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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allgonepetetong said:
I'm interested in this too as I have a NAS which has a security camera app installed, but just to pause for thought for a minute.

If you catch the scally robbing your house with a full facial shot on your cctv camera and give the file to the police, even if they recognise him, what's the end result?

You probably won't get your stuff back, he probably won't go to prison and your space has still been violated.

What's the benefit?
Copper who visited me after said scroat had nicked stuff was pretty confident that a decent image placing scroat in house uninvited would result in prosecution.

Kevp

587 posts

274 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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furtive said:
Running a single wire to the nearest power socket is much easier than running a 2nd wire to wherever your IT equipment is located (which could be on a different floor at the other end of the house, or even in a different building if the camera is in a detached garage for example)

Having it wired also removes the flexibility of moving the camera somewhere else if you want to as well
Dont forget mains wiring externaly, can only be done by an electrician on domestic properties. A low voltage supply is OK though.

I have used wireless transmitters & receivers very successfully, if its a case of bridging buildings.

Silver

4,373 posts

249 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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What's the law regarding having a CCTV camera pointed onto the road outside the property as well as the front?

Imagine a front garden which has been converted into hard standing for two cars. There are no gates or fences. There's a footpath about 3' wide between the road and the edge of the driveway. Now imagine someone pulling up in a car outside the property on the road and drops off someone who comes onto the property and commits a theft. The CCTV would record the person who came onto the premises but not the car waiting.

Could the CCTV point partially onto the road so at least the make and model of the car could be seen if not the registration?

Driller

8,310 posts

301 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Silver said:
What's the law regarding having a CCTV camera pointed onto the road outside the property as well as the front?

Imagine a front garden which has been converted into hard standing for two cars. There are no gates or fences. There's a footpath about 3' wide between the road and the edge of the driveway. Now imagine someone pulling up in a car outside the property on the road and drops off someone who comes onto the property and commits a theft. The CCTV would record the person who came onto the premises but not the car waiting.

Could the CCTV point partially onto the road so at least the make and model of the car could be seen if not the registration?
Well if the clip of that woman chucking the kitty in the bin is anything to go by, there isn't a problem.

I would just put it up and not say anything.

NDA

24,804 posts

248 months

Thursday 23rd September 2010
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Silver said:
What's the law regarding having a CCTV camera pointed onto the road outside the property as well as the front?

Imagine a front garden which has been converted into hard standing for two cars. There are no gates or fences. There's a footpath about 3' wide between the road and the edge of the driveway. Now imagine someone pulling up in a car outside the property on the road and drops off someone who comes onto the property and commits a theft. The CCTV would record the person who came onto the premises but not the car waiting.

Could the CCTV point partially onto the road so at least the make and model of the car could be seen if not the registration?
I think the law says that you need a sign somewhere saying that there's CCTV in operation.

Gareth79

8,727 posts

269 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Kevp said:
Dont forget mains wiring externaly, can only be done by an electrician on domestic properties. A low voltage supply is OK though.
External equipment mounted onto the house is not notifiable as long as it is not connected from a special location (eg. kitchen/bathroom) and isn't a new circuit.