Motorists face poor driving fines ....
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Probably been done on here before but .....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3588531.stm
Motorists face poor driving fines
Parking wardens will also report driving offences
Drivers can now be fined up to £100 by London councils, instead of police, in a move to crackdown on bad driving. Bus lane cameras will be used to catch motorists carrying out offences like wrongly driving into a box junction or turning right across a restricted lane.
The councils taking part in the nine-month pilot across the city are Camden, Ealing, Newham, Croydon, Wandsworth, Hammersmith and Fulham.
Money raised through fines will be used to fund transport improvements.
Most of the councils, which have been given the new powers under the Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003, are not expected to begin fining people for a couple of months.
Wardens will also report on drivers who make illegal U-turns, go the wrong way down a one way street and ignore no entry signs, pedestrian zones and which vehicle has priority.
Rebecca Rees, from the AA, criticised the scheme saying she was concerned it could be used as a way of raising revenue.
"We do not feel that local authorities have the capacity to do this," she said.
"The perception that members of the public have is that this is revenue-driven.
"Of course these motoring offences need to be enforced. Some people will welcome this move because they get annoyed by people who flout the law but there will also be drivers who think this will just be another easy way to make money."
'Discretion to be used'
According to the Association of London Government, the project aims to target selfish drivers who clog roads and endanger public safety.
"These are regulations laid down in the Highway Code and against the law which could have been prosecuted through the police.
"Some discretion will be used and somebody will have had to seen an offence for a ticket to be issued."
People could be fined up to £100 for offences, which would come down to £50 if it is paid within 14 days.
Anyone blocking footpaths and roads with, for example, skips and displays outside shops will also face £100 fines.
And operators face a £500 fine and drivers could be fined £100, rather than being prosecuted, if they break the London Lorry Ban which stops noisy truck journeys at night and weekends.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3588531.stm
Motorists face poor driving fines
Parking wardens will also report driving offences
Drivers can now be fined up to £100 by London councils, instead of police, in a move to crackdown on bad driving. Bus lane cameras will be used to catch motorists carrying out offences like wrongly driving into a box junction or turning right across a restricted lane.
The councils taking part in the nine-month pilot across the city are Camden, Ealing, Newham, Croydon, Wandsworth, Hammersmith and Fulham.
Money raised through fines will be used to fund transport improvements.
Most of the councils, which have been given the new powers under the Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003, are not expected to begin fining people for a couple of months.
Wardens will also report on drivers who make illegal U-turns, go the wrong way down a one way street and ignore no entry signs, pedestrian zones and which vehicle has priority.
Rebecca Rees, from the AA, criticised the scheme saying she was concerned it could be used as a way of raising revenue.
"We do not feel that local authorities have the capacity to do this," she said.
"The perception that members of the public have is that this is revenue-driven.
"Of course these motoring offences need to be enforced. Some people will welcome this move because they get annoyed by people who flout the law but there will also be drivers who think this will just be another easy way to make money."
'Discretion to be used'
According to the Association of London Government, the project aims to target selfish drivers who clog roads and endanger public safety.
"These are regulations laid down in the Highway Code and against the law which could have been prosecuted through the police.
"Some discretion will be used and somebody will have had to seen an offence for a ticket to be issued."
People could be fined up to £100 for offences, which would come down to £50 if it is paid within 14 days.
Anyone blocking footpaths and roads with, for example, skips and displays outside shops will also face £100 fines.
And operators face a £500 fine and drivers could be fined £100, rather than being prosecuted, if they break the London Lorry Ban which stops noisy truck journeys at night and weekends.
Edinburgh is apparently already doing this... the "Blue Meanies" are using cameras and you will receive your fine in the post. They're even using cameras for parking fines AND NOT ISSUING A TICKET AT THE TIME so that arguments about the position of the car cannot be refuted by a "defendants" photo. They've had hundreds of fines thrown out because of lines being illegally/wrongly marked etc and the Edinburgh council apparently doesn't want to give anyone thechance of appealing. Pure money raising efforts and NOTHING to do with traffic control.......
Blue Meanies = jackbooted dumb ignorant and vindictive barsteward natsis!
Blue Meanies = jackbooted dumb ignorant and vindictive barsteward natsis!
JMGS4 said:
Edinburgh is apparently already doing this... the "Blue Meanies" are using cameras and you will receive your fine in the post. They're even using cameras for parking fines AND NOT ISSUING A TICKET AT THE TIME so that arguments about the position of the car cannot be refuted by a "defendants" photo. They've had hundreds of fines thrown out because of lines being illegally/wrongly marked etc and the Edinburgh council apparently doesn't want to give anyone thechance of appealing. Pure money raising efforts and NOTHING to do with traffic control.......
Blue Meanies = jackbooted dumb ignorant and vindictive barsteward natsis!
Edinbore is Beggs old place. He
ed it up then went on to become chief bollock dropper for Bliar. the Association of London Government said:
These are regulations laid down in the Highway Code ...
Someone had better tell them that the Highway Code does NOT "lay down regulations" - Streaky
Edited to say "I have!" Though much good it will do me, I don't think! - S
>> Edited by streaky on Thursday 1st April 10:18
Not that the word "cyclist" does not appear here!
Fine poor driving standards - OK!
Then FINE dangerous cyclists who pedal wrong way down one-way streets, trip red lights etc, etc, etc!
And since there will be hundreds of little Stasis running around fining beleagured motorists - let's fine those J-walking pedestrians with ON-THE_SPOT fines - like they do in Germany, Switzerland and Austria!
Cannot really fine one section of society for poor standards of road safety without addressing the others!
Fine poor driving standards - OK!
Then FINE dangerous cyclists who pedal wrong way down one-way streets, trip red lights etc, etc, etc!
And since there will be hundreds of little Stasis running around fining beleagured motorists - let's fine those J-walking pedestrians with ON-THE_SPOT fines - like they do in Germany, Switzerland and Austria!
Cannot really fine one section of society for poor standards of road safety without addressing the others!
WildCat said:I think that's where "discretion" wil be used! Motorists discriminated against, cyclists and pedestrians discriminated for!
Not that the word "cyclist" does not appear here!
Fine poor driving standards - OK!
Then FINE dangerous cyclists who pedal wrong way down one-way streets, trip red lights etc, etc, etc!
And since there will be hundreds of little Stasis running around fining beleagured motorists - let's fine those J-walking pedestrians with ON-THE_SPOT fines - like they do in Germany, Switzerland and Austria!
Cannot really fine one section of society for poor standards of road safety without addressing the others!
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