Legal Position Of Tax Disc?

[Jakg]

Quick question, getting a new windscreen so can put the tax disc wherever I like.

Currently in the bottom left in the swept area which I think is a little pointless, would rather move it up to the top left out of the swept area.

Not sure where it legally needs to be, though?

[ewenm]

Not sure if there is a legal position - it just has to be displayed and not blocking the driver's sight lines. On the Caterham it's in a motorbike tax disc holder on the outside of the car.

[AllNines]

vonhosen said:

Regulation stuff

So the answer is?

[Balmoral Green]

AllNines said:

vonhosen said:

Regulation stuff

So the answer is?

(c) in the case of any vehicle fitted with a glass windscreen in front of the driver extending across the vehicle to its near side, on or adjacent to the near side of the windscreen.





Anywhere on the nearside edge, top or bottom.

[ewenm]

AllNines said:

vonhosen said:

Regulation stuff

So the answer is?

Answer c I think, nearside of screen or adjacent to the nearside of the screen. But yes, not exactly readable prose is it. Campaign for clear English would love that legalese.

[AllNines]

Isn't the offside adjacent to the nearside?

A simple "in the lower n/s corner" would suffice, if that's the answer. Or something a tad more understandable than the nonsense quoted.

[ewenm]

AllNines said:

Isn't the offside adjacent to the nearside?

A simple "in the lower n/s corner" would suffice, if that's the answer. Or something a tad more understandable than the nonsense quoted.

I took that bit to mean like mine on the Caterham - the motorbike tax disc holder hangs from one of the windscreen bolts adjacent to the nearside of the windscreen.

[AllNines]

OK, but it reads like it is referring to a RHD car - what about LHD, like one of mine? Does the same still apply or can it go on the other side?

And why is a normal car item 'c' among all that other text? It should be top of the list, surely, clearly identified as such?

Or am I just being grumpy?

[Munter]

AllNines said:

OK, but it reads like it is referring to a RHD car - what about LHD, like one of mine? Does the same still apply or can it go on the other side?

And why is a normal car item 'c' among all that other text? It should be top of the list, surely, clearly identified as such?

Or am I just being grumpy?

LHD RHD...who cares. Nearside is the side nearest the kirb when you park up for the night (rear reflectors facing the traffic "going your way"). Bugger all to do with where you've got your steering wheel.

[AllNines]

Munter said:

AllNines said:

OK, but it reads like it is referring to a RHD car - what about LHD, like one of mine? Does the same still apply or can it go on the other side?

And why is a normal car item 'c' among all that other text? It should be top of the list, surely, clearly identified as such?

Or am I just being grumpy?

LHD RHD...who cares. Nearside is the side nearest the kirb when you park up for the night (rear reflectors facing the traffic "going your way"). Bugger all to do with where you've got your steering wheel.

If you had read vonhosen's quoted blurb, it referred to a car where the windscreen started on the driver's side and carried over to the near side, so it has everything to do with where the "driver's side" is, thank you very much.

My point was that the blurb was stupid.
What's a 'kirb' anyway?

[Munter]

AllNines said:

Munter said:

AllNines said:

OK, but it reads like it is referring to a RHD car - what about LHD, like one of mine? Does the same still apply or can it go on the other side?

And why is a normal car item 'c' among all that other text? It should be top of the list, surely, clearly identified as such?

Or am I just being grumpy?

LHD RHD...who cares. Nearside is the side nearest the kirb when you park up for the night (rear reflectors facing the traffic "going your way"). Bugger all to do with where you've got your steering wheel.

If you had read vonhosen's quoted blurb, it referred to a car where the windscreen started on the driver's side and carried over to the near side, so it has everything to do with where the "driver's side" is, thank you very much.

My point was that the blurb was stupid.
What's a 'kirb' anyway?

(c) in the case of any vehicle fitted with a glass windscreen in front of the driver extending across the vehicle to its near side, on or adjacent to the near side of the windscreen.

From this statement exactly how have you identified if a vehicle is LHD or RHD? Because I cant. It just has to have a screen behind which a driver sits.

[ambuletz]

Should be fine putting it on the top left side, it's where most people who feel like putting MOT stickers their do. Long as it's not in the path of where the windscreen wipers go.

[AllNines]

Munter said:

(c) in the case of any vehicle fitted with a glass windscreen in front of the driver extending across the vehicle to its near side, on or adjacent to the near side of the windscreen.

From this statement exactly how have you identified if a vehicle is LHD or RHD? Because I cant. It just has to have a screen behind which a driver sits.

Er... from the statement itself! It's basically saying that the disc should go on the opposite side to the driver. In my LHD car, there is a glass windscreen that extends across to the off side, to use the syntax of the regs; so presumably the disc can go on the off side.

Why can't they just write it clearly?

[Munter]

AllNines said:

Munter said:

(c) in the case of any vehicle fitted with a glass windscreen in front of the driver extending across the vehicle to its near side, on or adjacent to the near side of the windscreen.

From this statement exactly how have you identified if a vehicle is LHD or RHD? Because I cant. It just has to have a screen behind which a driver sits.

Er... from the statement itself! It's basically saying that the disc should go on the opposite side to the driver. In my LHD car, there is a glass windscreen that extends across to the off side, to use the syntax of the regs; so presumably the disc can go on the off side.

Why can't they just write it clearly?

What? It IS clear. And it says nothing about the location of the driver except behind the screen. Part of the screen has to exist on the near side or the rule might be an impossibility. So driver behind the screen? Yes Screen on the near side? Yes. Put tax disk on screen on near side.

It's all perfectly clear to normal people with both RHD and LHD cars.

[AllNines]

Munter said:

What? It IS clear. And it says nothing about the location of the driver except behind the screen. Part of the screen has to exist on the near side or the rule might be an impossibility. So driver behind the screen? Yes Screen on the near side? Yes. Put tax disk on screen on near side.

It's all perfectly clear to normal people with both RHD and LHD cars.

No, what's clear is that you are wrong. And I have better things to do than argue with such people.

[ewenm]

It's not even mid-Winter and people are arguing about the slightest little things...

[Munter]

AllNines said:

Munter said:

What? It IS clear. And it says nothing about the location of the driver except behind the screen. Part of the screen has to exist on the near side or the rule might be an impossibility. So driver behind the screen? Yes Screen on the near side? Yes. Put tax disk on screen on near side.

It's all perfectly clear to normal people with both RHD and LHD cars.

No, what's clear is that you are wrong. And I have better things to do than argue with such people.

Ok poppet off you go. Get some comprehension lessons while your away would you. Or you'll find understanding things like your insurance policy very difficult. I hate to think how you've decided to interpret what that says.

[Pothole]

AllNines said:

Munter said:

What? It IS clear. And it says nothing about the location of the driver except behind the screen. Part of the screen has to exist on the near side or the rule might be an impossibility. So driver behind the screen? Yes Screen on the near side? Yes. Put tax disk on screen on near side.

It's all perfectly clear to normal people with both RHD and LHD cars.

No, what's clear is that you are wrong. And I have better things to do than argue with such people.

he's right, you're misinterpreting.

[AllNines]

Munter said:

Ok poppet off you go. Get some comprehension lessons while your away would you.

Oh FFS. So if you're sat in your RHD car, the windscreen in front of you extends across to the near side (as per the blurb from the regs). If you are sat in a LHD car, the windscreen in front of you doesn't 'extend across to the near side', it is on the near side; it extends across to the off side. Perfectly clear. No misinterpreting at all, not on my part at least.

What the fek's wrong with folk?

All the regs need to say is that the tax dics should be fixed to the lower n/s corner of the windscreen. Is that too much to ask?

[Munter]

AllNines said:

If you are sat in a LHD car, the windscreen in front of you doesn't 'extend across to the near side',

Really? So there's no screen on the nearside of the car if it's LHD?

I don't think you understand the use of the word "extends" in this context.