How on Earth ?
How on Earth ?
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Mr Cerbera

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5,151 posts

259 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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..... do you get the Oil Filter off an AJP motah ?

There is absolutely no room between the filter case and the chassis on the passenger side.

I have two removal tools that have worked on every car I've ever owned but there is no space available to use them.

I also have a countersunk oil-fiter-head-shaped socket which I use on my GSXR1100. Is there something like this in the Rover/TVR world.

I have done searches until my eyes bleed without success.

Anyt suggestions ?

FarmyardPants

4,372 posts

247 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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It won't come off by hand then? wink Have a fresh one full of oil ready for a quick swap, lest air enters the oil pump. I have zero experience, just going by what I've read. How bad is your oil leak btw - drips or proper puddling?

gruffalo

8,150 posts

255 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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Not a subtle aproach but have to tried hammering a large screwdriver through it at the bigest angle you can manage to give good leverage and twist it off, always worked for me.

Ireland

3,517 posts

243 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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I use one of these .....



..... and it works a treat every time.

Make sure not to over-tighten the new one when you fit it.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

241 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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If you can get to it from the top I took mine off last weekend by hammering a screwdriver into the metal lip at a very slight angle to rotate it. Engine was out though so not sure how easy it'll be with engine in.

Other than that, disconnect oil pipes and undo the exhaust clamp holding the whole thing to the chassis?

caduceus

6,126 posts

295 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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If you think an AJP filter is a mission... Try removing a Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo oil filter hehe Everything alse since the Coupe, pales in comparison.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

241 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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I did the filter on a 16v Turbo, not sure if they are in the same place, but yes, that was pretty awkward.

fatjon

2,299 posts

242 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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I second the "hammer a big screwdriver through it" approach. My chosen method of several AJP oil changes.


bobbins

1,413 posts

236 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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caduceus said:
If you think an AJP filter is a mission... Try removing a Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo oil filter hehe Everything alse since the Coupe, pales in comparison.
hehe - tuna tin tastic.

Mr Cerbera

Original Poster:

5,151 posts

259 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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jammy_basturd said:
.....Other than that, disconnect oil pipes and undo the exhaust clamp holding the whole thing to the chassis?
Ooooh, I like the 'lateral' approach wink

Ireland

3,517 posts

243 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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Are you trying to remove the filter from above or below?

I've never given it a second thought from below but I wouldn't dream of trying to remove it from above.

Take her from below .... biggrin

Edited by Ireland on Wednesday 29th September 23:53

Mr Cerbera

Original Poster:

5,151 posts

259 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Yup, I was trying from the downbelows wink

I didn't want to destroy the old filter in situ or destroy it and still not be able to get it off or destroy it and be unable to fit the new one sufficiently tightly !

As I said, I have the perfect tool for my Suzy and just hoped that there would be summat like that for the Rover/TVR.

(As you can tell - I think a LOT before tackelling even the smallest of jobs hehe)

Although, I have to say, J.J., that the tool you pictured looked very confusing. Is there summat that screws onto each of the three legs which grips the offending filter case ?

PJ

Edited by Mr Cerbera on Thursday 30th September 10:05

Poledriver

29,587 posts

223 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Mr Cerbera said:
Yup, I was trying from the downbelows wink

I didn't want to destroy the old filter in situ or destroy it and still not be able to get it off or destroy it and be unable to fit the new one sufficiently tightly !

As I said, I have the perfect tool for my Suzy and just hoped that there would be summat like that for the Rover/TVR.

(As you can tell - I think a LOT before tackelling even the smallest of jobs hehe)

Although, I have to say, J.J., that the tool you pictured looked very confusing. Is there summat that screws onto each of the three legs which grips the offending filter case ?

PJ

Edited by Mr Cerbera on Thursday 30th September 10:05
You simply fit the legs around the body of the filter and attach a socket extension and wrench to the nut in the centre. As you twist the wrench the legs clamp onto the body of the filter. The harder you have to twist, the tighter the legs will clamp, whilst also turning the filter to loosen it... They work! smile

Edited by Poledriver on Thursday 30th September 10:44

Mr Cerbera

Original Poster:

5,151 posts

259 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Hmmmmm, weird !

I'll try and ger a photo of mine but, to the best of my recollection, there's NO WAY to fit something that large around my filter.

I'll have a check.

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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This



Yet to find a car that these don't work on.

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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Sorry for the thread resurrection, but I had a look at mine today. The manual says you have to remove the plate under the anti roll bar, but it looks to me like you could change the filter without doing that. Taking the plate off looks like a pain in the wossname. Am I missing something?

Ireland

3,517 posts

243 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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The panel under the engine is easy to remove.

Open the bolts holding it on and it simply drops down.

You will need to undo the bolts holding the ARB in place but there is no need to remove the brackets off the ARB, just simply swing it down out of the way.

Once the panel is removed you can loosely reattach the ARB bolts by hand.

Once the panel is removed it's a doddle to get the filter off.

Once you've done this job once you'll wonder what you were ever worried about to begin with.

smile

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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I worry too much, especially with the Cerb - everything seems to have an unexpected effect on something else. If this was my other TVR I'd not worry for a second!

So you take the 4 ARB bolts out and the 2 at the front? I'll be doing this with the car on stands so the wheels will be hanging - I was wondering if the ARB would drop too far...

scotty_d

6,795 posts

223 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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tvrgit said:
Sorry for the thread resurrection, but I had a look at mine today. The manual says you have to remove the plate under the anti roll bar, but it looks to me like you could change the filter without doing that. Taking the plate off looks like a pain in the wossname. Am I missing something?
Hi Andrew how's you?

I did this job only 2-3 days ago it is really easy, Drop the alloy plate on the under side, 7 bolts 4 which drop the anti roll bar (i used my trolly jack to put it back in position) then i use a filter strap like this one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Silverline-380056-Oil-Filter...

Came off with ease and as said have the new filter filled with fresh oil ready to change over fairly propmtly so the oil pump does not drain down.

Storer

5,024 posts

244 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Most tool companies do this sort of thing http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/...