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Ninjaboy

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2,525 posts

277 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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I've got abit of a dilema and want some advice from the business bods on here. I attended an interview tuesday which went really well, i like the company, they like me and its a perfect job for me. I should know the outcome early next week.

Today i've been for an interview and offered a job on the spot, this job is also good but it's not really as perfect for me. I was phoned on the out the blue and asked to come in for an interview in 3 hours and was offered the job and they want me to start next week the company looks good but i'm uneasy about how fast it moved on and the salary isnt as high as i hoped. I worried that if i take the second job in have lost the job i though was perfect for me. i was going to phone the first job and ask if they had made a decision but worried this would seem too pushy, any advice anyone?



Edited by Ninjaboy on Friday 1st October 17:12

Henry Fiddleton

1,596 posts

204 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Take the job offered, get going, and if the other one comes through, take that. 6 months probation period.

A horibble thing to do, but tough luck really. They would get rid of you as soon as it hits the fan anyway.

smile

WreckedGecko

1,191 posts

228 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Ask the second job if they will let you think about it over the weekend. that should give the first job enought time to get back to. I would hope so at least.

Ninjaboy

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2,525 posts

277 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Thats what i was going to do but the first job pretty much told me they want me for a second interview, if i start the second job i wont be able to go the interview and the jobs gone.

clk55pete

868 posts

233 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Ninjaboy said:
I've got abit of a dilema and want some advice from the business bods on here. I attended an interview tuesday which went really well, i like the company they like me and its a perfect job for me but i should know the outcome early next week.

Today i've been for an interview and offered the job on the spot, this job is also good but it's not really as perfect for me. I was phoned on the out the blue and asked to come in for an interview in 3 hours and was offered the job and they want me to start next week the company looks good but i'm uneasy about how fast it moved on and the salary isnt as high as i hoped. I worried that if i take the second job in have lost the job i though was perfect for me. i was going to phone the first job and ask if they had made a decision but worried this would seem too pushy, any advice anyone?

Edited by Ninjaboy on Friday 1st October 17:11
Hold out for the first job if its not just money that isn't so good in the second job. If it’s just the money that’s too low in the second job then either negotiate more knowing that the best alternative to a negotiated agreement is to not get the job.

Also - if you have not been give an exact date for the first interview results then phone them as that would be reasonable.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

236 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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If the second job want you THAT much they offered you the job on the spot, surely they can find the money to convince you to join; do they know you have another application in progress?

I'd also be asking myself why they're so decisive: perhaps they're having trouble hiring (or keeping) people for some reason?


Ninjaboy

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2,525 posts

277 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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clk55pete said:
Ninjaboy said:
I've got abit of a dilema and want some advice from the business bods on here. I attended an interview tuesday which went really well, i like the company they like me and its a perfect job for me but i should know the outcome early next week.

Today i've been for an interview and offered the job on the spot, this job is also good but it's not really as perfect for me. I was phoned on the out the blue and asked to come in for an interview in 3 hours and was offered the job and they want me to start next week the company looks good but i'm uneasy about how fast it moved on and the salary isnt as high as i hoped. I worried that if i take the second job in have lost the job i though was perfect for me. i was going to phone the first job and ask if they had made a decision but worried this would seem too pushy, any advice anyone?

Edited by Ninjaboy on Friday 1st October 17:11
Hold out for the first job if its not just money that isn't so good in the second job. If it’s just the money that’s too low in the second job then either negotiate more knowing that the best alternative to a negotiated agreement is to not get the job.

Also - if you have not been give an exact date for the first interview results then phone them as that would be reasonable.
I'm going to phone the first job first thing monday morning, this is such a ball ache of a position to be in. what are peoples thoughts on being called in 3 hours before an interview? i applied weeks ago for the job. I don't know if the makes sense to anyone but i don't want to be offered a job because they are desperate. The first job came across as keen.

Ninjaboy

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2,525 posts

277 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Gizmo! said:
If the second job want you THAT much they offered you the job on the spot, surely they can find the money to convince you to join; do they know you have another application in progress?

I'd also be asking myself why they're so decisive: perhaps they're having trouble hiring (or keeping) people for some reason?
Thats my thought at the moment.

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

210 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Can you afford to be without a job? If not, accept the one that has been offered, I assume that if you're working now, you'll have a 4 week notice period, during which time you will almost certainly know about the one you really want and can let the other company down with the 'unforunately, my company have offered me a considerably improved package to keep me on board' line - it's a face-saver for you and might knock them into giving you a few quid extra to get you on!!

On a similar note, I do a lot of interviews at work and would definitely not be hacked off with someone phoning up and enquiring how the process was going. I usually find a nice touch if you don't get the job and find out by phoning them is to say 'well, it's a shame I wasn't succesfull, but I'm really glad you filled the role, can I ask you to keep my details on file for future roles?' or something similar. Saves them from some of the inevitable bad feeling they will have for turning down someone (most interviewers don't like this part), might give you an idea of how they really felt about you and sometimes (only sometimes), can tip the scales in your favour if the other person only just won!!

Either way you decide, good luck!!

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

201 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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You could always ask if the first will pay more. They seem fairly desperate. They might negotiate.

GadgeS3C

4,727 posts

191 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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My ex was once offered a job. She was in the same position as you and asked for some time to consider it. 2 days later the first company rang and offered her an extra £3k...

blearyeyedboy

6,796 posts

206 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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I've had a similar set up twice and I did different things for each one.

Once I said "I've got another job interview tomorrow" and the job offer disappeared.

The second time I said "I'm really interested. I'd like to go away for about 24 hours to consider that offer." That time, the offer was held open and I got the other better job I was holding out for without losing face.

Can't promise it'd always work, but I know I'd always take the second route from now on. Good luck whatever you go for.

Ninjaboy

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2,525 posts

277 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Thanks for the advice people, just hope everything works it's self out.

Chilli

17,320 posts

263 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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If it were me, I'd phone the 1st job and be totally honest...That you're wanted elsewhere but you'd rather hang on as you'd prefer their job. I wouldn't find it pushy at all if it was someone calling me. I might even think that I was risking losing an obviously strong candidate to someone else whilst I dragged my feet.

MrV

2,748 posts

255 months

Sunday 3rd October 2010
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Chilli said:
If it were me, I'd phone the 1st job and be totally honest...That you're wanted elsewhere but you'd rather hang on as you'd prefer their job. I wouldn't find it pushy at all if it was someone calling me. I might even think that I was risking losing an obviously strong candidate to someone else whilst I dragged my feet.
I did just this on Wednesday,First thing Thursday got a call back asking when I could start smileIts not being pushy just being honest with a future employer.

escargot

17,123 posts

244 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Henry Fiddleton said:
Take the job offered, get going, and if the other one comes through, take that. 6 months probation period.

A horibble thing to do, but tough luck really. They would get rid of you as soon as it hits the fan anyway.

smile
Don't do this, especially if it's a niche sector. Your reputation will be in tatters.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

260 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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escargot said:
Henry Fiddleton said:
Take the job offered, get going, and if the other one comes through, take that. 6 months probation period.

A horibble thing to do, but tough luck really. They would get rid of you as soon as it hits the fan anyway.

smile
Don't do this, especially if it's a niche sector. Your reputation will be in tatters.
yes Or even if it is 'local' and you don't plan on moving 100+ miles if you were to leave the job you left for IYSWIM.

Round these parts you would be burnt for all but a very few, less respected and dying, firms.

Ninjaboy

Original Poster:

2,525 posts

277 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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escargot said:
Henry Fiddleton said:
Take the job offered, get going, and if the other one comes through, take that. 6 months probation period.

A horibble thing to do, but tough luck really. They would get rid of you as soon as it hits the fan anyway.

smile
Don't do this, especially if it's a niche sector. Your reputation will be in tatters.
Hope it doesnt come to that then lol