Censoring children's books
Censoring children's books
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431 posts

268 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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The BBC has an interesting article about increasing censorship of children's books in the US: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11417672

It includes a list of the 10 most banned books, with reasons. I think the saddest one is "To Kill a Mockingbird" - on the basis that it contains racism. Surely that's the whole point of the book; it's condemning it, not encouraging it!

Although the article puts much of the blame on the religious right, a couple of books are on the list because they are told from a religious viewpoint.

So are there any books you would ban from a school library, and if so, what and why?

sneijder

5,231 posts

265 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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If the story is true, I give up on trying to fathom that country out.

cazzer

8,883 posts

279 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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Catcher in the Rye.....because it's st.
And don't tell me it's because I don't get it. It's just st.
A real case of Emperors New Clothes (which would probably be banned for containing nudity)

Smallend

Original Poster:

431 posts

268 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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I quite enjoyed Catcher in the Rye...

Smallend

Original Poster:

431 posts

268 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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How about 'Lady Chatterley', or ' Lolita' being standard issue in a school library?
Should they be there, or should there be an element of censorship in schools?
Where do you start and stop with censoring the reading material of older pupils?

sneijder

5,231 posts

265 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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cazzer said:
Catcher in the Rye.....because it's st.
And don't tell me it's because I don't get it. It's just st.
A real case of Emperors New Clothes (which would probably be banned for containing nudity)
Not just me then, and endured it for a second time recently to give it a second chance. It starts, nothing happens, you sense he's going to go postal, then nothing, it ends. That's it.

Read To Kill A Mockingbird recently again too, got so much more out of it than in my youth.

wakster

265 posts

209 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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sneijder said:
Read To Kill A Mockingbird recently again too, got so much more out of it than in my youth.
I never read it as a nipper and am glad, I read it a couple of months ago and found it fantastic.

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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In a so-called free society I don't think there should be censorship in this way.

miniman

30,220 posts

293 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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My daughter has a Peppa Pig book called "Recycling Fun". Needless to say, when I read it to her the following are added:

Lentil munching
Misguided cretin
All goes in a landfill anyway
Total lifecycle environmental impact

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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It's not just in the US. Childrens' nursery rhymes were bowlderized under Queen Victoria.

It shouldn't happen; censorship is merely the delusion that other people cannot think things up for themselves. Unfortunately there is no shortage of thick or controlling people.

cazzer

8,883 posts

279 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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miniman said:
My daughter has a Peppa Pig book called "Recycling Fun". Needless to say, when I read it to her the following are added:

Lentil munching
Misguided cretin
All goes in a landfill anyway
Total lifecycle environmental impact
Long time since I've genuinely "lol"ed

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

273 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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Well, I just read my son a battered copy of 'Gunther purges the ghetto of the insidious Zionists for the greater glory of the Fatherland' I recently found in Mutti's attic and while I suppose it may have seemed a little archaic in places mainly it just comes across, now, as whimsy. The illustrations are charming.

I bet that there are those that would like to see it banned, though. And those people get called PC Nazis. It's the ultimate insult to Gunther.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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Justayellowbadge said:
Well, I just read my son a battered copy of 'Gunther purges the ghetto of the insidious Zionists for the greater glory of the Fatherland' I recently found in Mutti's attic and while I suppose it may have seemed a little archaic in places mainly it just comes across, now, as whimsy. The illustrations are charming.

I bet that there are those that would like to see it banned, though. And those people get called PC Nazis. It's the ultimate insult to Gunther.
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/fuchs.htm

Just sometimes, truth is stranger than JAYB.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

273 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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randlemarcus said:
Just sometimes, truth is stranger than JAYB.
hehe

It is in equal parts odd and comforting that someone has penned my perfect epitath whilst I am still in my thirties.

stackmonkey

5,084 posts

280 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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Smallend said:
The BBC has an interesting article about increasing censorship of children's books in the US: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11417672

It includes a list of the 10 most banned books, with reasons. I think the saddest one is "To Kill a Mockingbird" - on the basis that it contains racism. Surely that's the whole point of the book; it's condemning it, not encouraging it!

Although the article puts much of the blame on the religious right, a couple of books are on the list because they are told from a religious viewpoint.
"To kill a Mocking bird" was included because black parents objected to the use of the word "" within the group. Your are right, though. The book is very much against racism, which suggests to me that the objectors haven't actually read it enough to show that context.

whirligig

941 posts

226 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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sneijder said:
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Read To Kill A Mockingbird recently again too, got so much more out of it than in my youth.
Me too! I read it for "O" grade and over analysed it to death. On reading it again (20+ years later) I really enjoyed it - the character development is great. And to think this was the only book Harper Lee wrote.

theironduke

6,995 posts

219 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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cazzer said:
miniman said:
My daughter has a Peppa Pig book called "Recycling Fun". Needless to say, when I read it to her the following are added:

Lentil munching
Misguided cretin
All goes in a landfill anyway
Total lifecycle environmental impact
Long time since I've genuinely "lol"ed
Me too! i can just see minimans blood pressure rocketing when he reads Peppa Pig

4988cc

25,878 posts

237 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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Smallend said:
So are there any books you would ban from a school library, and if so, what and why?
The Bible (and other religious texts, let's not discriminate), for the harm done to the development of impressionable children's critical thinking faculties.

I'd settle for it/them being relocated to the "Fiction" section.

Edited by 4988cc on Saturday 2nd October 21:54

cymtriks

4,561 posts

276 months

Saturday 2nd October 2010
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4988cc said:
Smallend said:
So are there any books you would ban from a school library, and if so, what and why?
The Bible (and other religious texts, let's not discriminate), for the harm done to the development of impressionable children's critical thinking faculties.

I'd settle for it/them being relocated to the "Fiction" section.
Or keep it as a corner stone of our civilisations philosophy, morality, law and its portrayal of a bronze age tribes struggle for survival.

Then there is the history which makes perfect sense if you read it in the cultural and historical context that it was intended to be read.

Of course you could just censor it on the basis that most religious types and nearly all atheists aren't clever enough to work out any of the above.