Child benefit withdrawn for high rate tax payers
Child benefit withdrawn for high rate tax payers
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Greenie

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1,852 posts

272 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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As per the title reallly. Chancellor to withdraw child benefit for higher rate tax payers in 2013.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Those bloody conservatives they only care about their rich mates

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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not even that, its withdrawn if your household income is greater than roughly £44k. Which isn't exactly "High Earners" which is what it says in the BBC headline... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

Phooey

13,902 posts

200 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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bks. Do them s realise Porsche's don't run on water children need investment for the future!

Meddling wkers

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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anonymous said:
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I can;t see that on their website but perhaps it was on the radio.

The article on the website is confused... it says:

BBC said:
Child benefit is to be axed for higher rate taxpayers from 2013, Chancellor George Osborne has announced
and lower down

BBC said:
Families earning over about £44,000 would be affected.
so...

Edited by DangerousMike on Monday 4th October 08:02

Great Pretender

26,140 posts

245 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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DangerousMike said:
not even that, its withdrawn if your household income is greater than roughly £44k. Which isn't exactly "High Earners" which is what it says in the BBC headline... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
My thoughts exactly.


jbi

12,700 posts

235 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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To be honest child benefit isn't exactly going to make a huge difference at those earning levels IMO

fadeaway

1,463 posts

257 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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anonymous said:
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Why would he deny it? 2 X £30k incomes means that neither parent is a higher rate tax payer, and so they would continue to get child benefit. That's actually exactly what he said.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

242 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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80-120 a month is a lot to me. With my missus and I earning 'okay' we lose it.

I wouldn't mind but those that have never paid a penny in are the ones yet again being rewarded.

I also wouldn't mind but whenever I get the joy of going to their houses they all have sky, mobile phones and can afford to get pissed and smoke.

I've not seen anyone in poverty.

Manks

28,176 posts

253 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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jbi said:
To be honest child benefit isn't exactly going to make a huge difference at those earning levels IMO
It doesn't matter. If someone works harder and earns more they should get the same benefit. That's "fair".

What is not "fair" is what politicians are peddling as fairness which is that high earners get taxed at a higher percentage of their income than everyone else.

I only hope that this is a tactical move to help justify swingeing cuts to the benefits of the scroungers.


Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
80-120 a month is a lot to me. With my missus and I earning 'okay' we lose it.

I wouldn't mind but those that have never paid a penny in are the ones yet again being rewarded.

I also wouldn't mind but whenever I get the joy of going to their houses they all have sky, mobile phones and can afford to get pissed and smoke.

I've not seen anyone in poverty.
So benefits work then...



wink

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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its slightly bizarre that a household earning £80k may be able to claim child benefit but one earning £45k may not.

fadeaway

1,463 posts

257 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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anonymous said:
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Yes, this is what was announced.

I assume that instead of this simple method you want them to employee several thousand more civil servants, a new computer system and a shiny new form to implement a complicated means tested approach to deciding who gets child benefit?

DJC

23,563 posts

267 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Sorry, but absolutely no problem with this whatsoever. If you are earning £44k+ you are on a good wage, top 10% in the country type good wage.

£88/month is pretty much what my sofa costs. Having to pay that extra this year hasnt brankrupted me, having the extra money next year from not paying it wont make me a millionaire either. In fact it wont alter my living ability in any way shape or form.

You arent on the breadline at that salary, you can and will cope. Oh, you might have to swap the BM. Merc, Audi for a Pug or Mondeo, but Im sure you will cope.

JagLover

46,843 posts

266 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Greenie said:
As per the title reallly. Chancellor to withdraw child benefit for higher rate tax payers in 2013.
A disatrous and anti-conservative policy.

It is the plefora of means testing that has brought Britain to the state it is today. To penalise families earning at that level (which is a living wage in the South-east) is simply wrong, and should not be the actions of a Conservative government.

Yes the government should be saving money, but one of the biggest problems in Britain today is that the lower middle classes often simply cannot afford to have children, and this will only make things worse for too many couples.

cymtriks

4,561 posts

276 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Oh dear, more means testing.

What a wasted opportunity this benefit reform is turning out to be.

Congratulations you utter muppets on reinforcing the poverty trap, rewarding those who make their situation worse, penalising those who try to improve, increasing paperwork and not recouping the cost of changing for 15 years.

Idiots.

JagLover

46,843 posts

266 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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anonymous said:
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Agreed

The Tories may think they can screw their natural supporters and still achieve relection but I doubt it.


BoRED S2upid

21,127 posts

271 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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anonymous said:
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Agree but then I would Im Welsh £44k a year is a rich man up here. I would imagine however if your living in London and earning £44k your on the breadline and would be struggling to pay your mortgage.

petemurphy

10,965 posts

214 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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seems fair enough but i would have liked him to resrtict child benefit for all to 2 children as well.

230TE

2,506 posts

217 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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State benefits lead to a whingeing, ungrateful kind of dependency which this thread illustrates perfectly. If you have a half-decent job then IMHO you have no right to expect the State to subsidise you. Most people could do with more money coming in. The answer is simple: if you want more money, work harder. Don't expect the Govt to save you the bother.