Limited mileage policies and trackdays
Limited mileage policies and trackdays
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wombat172a

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1,458 posts

207 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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Afternoon all,

I'm sure some of you here are on limited mileage policies, and I'm wondering if you can answer a question better than my insurance company.

I'm currently on a 5,000mile p/a policy and I use that car on track aswell. While this is happening the mileometer is obviously ticking round, and this is what the insurance company use to guage the annual mileage that the vehicle has completed, even though a certain number of those miles will be done off the road where the insurance doesn't apply.

Although the problem hasn't been encountered it's quite feasible that I could complete 5,200 miles a year, with 300 of those on track, but I would be penalised by my insurance company.

I asked my insurance co. about this and they basically say "tough luck".

So what have other people experienced with this potential problem?

Cheers.

jleroux

1,511 posts

284 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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Same response from my insurers unfortunately. When I had the elise, i was doing about 10,000 miles a year, about 60% of which were on track. Criminal that they get away with it - bit like fuel duty on unleaded used on track (see other thread).

Jonny
BaT

wombat172a

Original Poster:

1,458 posts

207 months

Wednesday 6th October 2010
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bds

Mrs Muttleysnoop

1,417 posts

208 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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It would have cost us £120 MORE for limited milage ie 6K p/a and we have track days included on our policy. So yes we are on unlimited mileage.

edb49

1,652 posts

229 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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wombat172a said:
Afternoon all,

I'm sure some of you here are on limited mileage policies, and I'm wondering if you can answer a question better than my insurance company.

I'm currently on a 5,000mile p/a policy and I use that car on track aswell. While this is happening the mileometer is obviously ticking round, and this is what the insurance company use to guage the annual mileage that the vehicle has completed, even though a certain number of those miles will be done off the road where the insurance doesn't apply.

Although the problem hasn't been encountered it's quite feasible that I could complete 5,200 miles a year, with 300 of those on track, but I would be penalised by my insurance company.

I asked my insurance co. about this and they basically say "tough luck".

So what have other people experienced with this potential problem?

Cheers.
Just keep all the receipts from the track days you attend. Assume say 150-250 miles per track day?

If you are ever in a position where you want to claim on your insurance and they're refusing because of excess mileage, get back on to the "Plod & The Law" bit of the forum for some advice. As long as you have a reasonable amount of documentation the insurer won't stand a chance.

Mrs Muttleysnoop

1,417 posts

208 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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inkiboo said:
Mrs Muttleysnoop said:
It would have cost us £120 MORE for limited milage ie 6K p/a and we have track days included on our policy. So yes we are on unlimited mileage.
Who is your insurer?
Footman James.

atom mark

4 posts

187 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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i have had the same problem with the insurers. i had a track day at silverstone that racked up nearly 400miles, none of which covered by my previous insurance policy yet came out of my limited mileage entitlement. their arguement was that there is no way of certifying how many miles are done on track by the owner. fair enough. ive now changed to REIS (richard egger) who also have this claus but they throw in 4 track days as part of the policy to help cover this issue.

keeping receipts for track days simply wont matter. the small print covers that. you have limited mileage insurance. if you exceed that, whether on road or track, your insurance is no longer valid.

if you are getting near the limit of you mileage allowance then just bite the bullet and extend the cover. its frustrating but if we take out the policy, agreeing those terms, then we dont have much of a leg to stand on if we then exceed that mileage.

edb49

1,652 posts

229 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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atom mark said:
keeping receipts for track days simply wont matter. the small print covers that. you have limited mileage insurance. if you exceed that, whether on road or track, your insurance is no longer valid.

if you are getting near the limit of you mileage allowance then just bite the bullet and extend the cover. its frustrating but if we take out the policy, agreeing those terms, then we dont have much of a leg to stand on if we then exceed that mileage.
Sorry but that's not at all correct! The insurer may *say* they won't pay out if your mileage on a limited-mileage policy is exceeded (when it was exceeded under another insurer's policy or not insured, e.g. uninsured driver/track day), they have absolutely no way they can refuse a claim provided you have evidence you did the track days. (They can argue, but they will lose.)

atom mark

4 posts

187 months

Saturday 9th October 2010
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edb49 said:
atom mark said:
keeping receipts for track days simply wont matter. the small print covers that. you have limited mileage insurance. if you exceed that, whether on road or track, your insurance is no longer valid.

if you are getting near the limit of you mileage allowance then just bite the bullet and extend the cover. its frustrating but if we take out the policy, agreeing those terms, then we dont have much of a leg to stand on if we then exceed that mileage.
Sorry but that's not at all correct! The insurer may *say* they won't pay out if your mileage on a limited-mileage policy is exceeded (when it was exceeded under another insurer's policy or not insured, e.g. uninsured driver/track day), they have absolutely no way they can refuse a claim provided you have evidence you did the track days. (They can argue, but they will lose.)
fair enough. i was advising what i had been told by both insurance companies. if they are wrong then i stand corrected. cheers.

davepoth

29,395 posts

223 months

Saturday 9th October 2010
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You actually bother telling them the mileage from year to year then? My insurer (lancaster) has never asked me...

jleroux

1,511 posts

284 months

Saturday 9th October 2010
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davepoth said:
You actually bother telling them the mileage from year to year then? My insurer (lancaster) has never asked me...
they can get it from your MOT, and if it's over, invalidate your insurance. The onus is on you to be honest, not on them to enforce your honesty.

sfaulds

653 posts

302 months

Saturday 9th October 2010
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edb49 said:
Sorry but that's not at all correct! The insurer may *say* they won't pay out if your mileage on a limited-mileage policy is exceeded (when it was exceeded under another insurer's policy or not insured, e.g. uninsured driver/track day), they have absolutely no way they can refuse a claim provided you have evidence you did the track days. (They can argue, but they will lose.)
How do you propose proving *how many* miles you do on a trackday? Frankly if you've enough money to afford a lawyer to fight that one out, you've enough money to pay the extra few quid for more miles on your policy.

Evangelion

8,460 posts

202 months

Saturday 9th October 2010
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Disconnect the speedo - you don't look at it anyway on a track day do you?

edb49

1,652 posts

229 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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sfaulds said:
edb49 said:
Sorry but that's not at all correct! The insurer may *say* they won't pay out if your mileage on a limited-mileage policy is exceeded (when it was exceeded under another insurer's policy or not insured, e.g. uninsured driver/track day), they have absolutely no way they can refuse a claim provided you have evidence you did the track days. (They can argue, but they will lose.)
How do you propose proving *how many* miles you do on a trackday? Frankly if you've enough money to afford a lawyer to fight that one out, you've enough money to pay the extra few quid for more miles on your policy.
I'm pretty sure it's the other way around - if you say you went to track days and have receipts to prove it, the onus really falls on the insurer. It is actually very tricky for insurers not to pay out in circumstances like that... (And also when you have a modified car but haven't declared mods etc.)

gruffalo

8,100 posts

250 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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I am on a 5K miles a year policy, did about 6.5K last year with most if not all of the extra being on trackdays, no issue at renewal, just told them the new mileage and stated that the car was used for trackdays as well as normal road use and absolutely no issue at all.

A-One insurance is the broker and Britcar the actual insurance company.

g40steve

1,204 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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Another vote for REIS, £400 a yr 7k mileage with 4 trackdays bargain.
Used to be with Greenlight/Highways £400 a yr but £50 on top for every trackday.