Forest fires make our cars unbeatable?
Forest fires make our cars unbeatable?
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_Batty_

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12,268 posts

279 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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Now await all you budding Clarksons, poison fingers ready to hammer home the utter smugness of a ruined industry.
Our car building history is one of the most compelling stories ever to be told.
The early birth, the home grown beauty, style, elegance and speed, all blurred by Unions, poor design, lethargy and contempt.
Today what do we have we left? Most people will happily tell you that MG/Rover’s death was the last in a long line of useless car manufacturers that the home country has produced, and happily lay the size 9’s in for good measure.
But I see things slightly differently. As if the forest fire has cleared the deadwood and weeds from the industry, so now the sun is shining on our small specialists.
Ok so the mass market has gone, our exports are down, and Birmingham is only half full of Chinese, but lets look at what we have left!
Radical, Morgan, Ariel and Caterham are shooting for the new dawn, roots deeply embedded into the countries past. Years of experience drawn from the subsoil, decades of engineering know how taken like the warm sun.
But this is only the start, you see the lessons from the old oaks of the past (British Leyland etc) have been etched into the saplings.
Fresh designs are added onto the existing roots, strong foundations ensured with joint ventures, and a strong single direction (skywards).
F1, one of the pinnacles of motorsport, would be no where would it not be for the engineers born and bred in the Bristols and Healeys of the past.
Only due to the catastrophic failures have we earnt the right to produce some of the quickest, direct, focused road cars on the planet today.
The British population are the harshest judges of our own creations. The lack of patriotism ensures that everyone is after the *best* deal for them. Not the best *British* deal for them.
Some say this is wrong, but I applaud this fact. We choose the cars we want to drive because they are the best at a given set of parameters, no room for complacency.
Survival of the fittest, as Darwin concludes is called Evolution, to which our car industry is doing.

The fire may have only just gone out, but I’m sure you’ll agree, the best is yet to come.

MarJay

2,180 posts

204 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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_Batty_ said:
Now await all you budding Clarksons, poison fingers ready to hammer home the utter smugness of a ruined industry.
Our car building history is one of the most compelling stories ever to be told.
The early birth, the home grown beauty, style, elegance and speed, all blurred by Unions, poor design, lethargy and contempt.
Today what do we have we left? Most people will happily tell you that MG/Rover’s death was the last in a long line of useless car manufacturers that the home country has produced, and happily lay the size 9’s in for good measure.
But I see things slightly differently. As if the forest fire has cleared the deadwood and weeds from the industry, so now the sun is shining on our small specialists.
Ok so the mass market has gone, our exports are down, and Birmingham is only half full of Chinese, but lets look at what we have left!
Radical, Morgan, Ariel and Caterham are shooting for the new dawn, roots deeply embedded into the countries past. Years of experience drawn from the subsoil, decades of engineering know how taken like the warm sun.
But this is only the start, you see the lessons from the old oaks of the past (British Leyland etc) have been etched into the saplings.
Fresh designs are added onto the existing roots, strong foundations ensured with joint ventures, and a strong single direction (skywards).
F1, one of the pinnacles of motorsport, would be no where would it not be for the engineers born and bred in the Bristols and Healeys of the past.
Only due to the catastrophic failures have we earnt the right to produce some of the quickest, direct, focused road cars on the planet today.
The British population are the harshest judges of our own creations. The lack of patriotism ensures that everyone is after the *best* deal for them. Not the best *British* deal for them.
Some say this is wrong, but I applaud this fact. We choose the cars we want to drive because they are the best at a given set of parameters, no room for complacency.
Survival of the fittest, as Darwin concludes is called Evolution, to which our car industry is doing.

The fire may have only just gone out, but I’m sure you’ll agree, the best is yet to come.
Not being rude but I didn't read all of that. It smacks of a kind of forced fake eloquence that foreign language speakers use to make themselves sound formal... a bit like those scam emails you get asking for money.

Zod

35,295 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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The formatting is pretty horrible and it appears that the theme is that lightweight, track-oriented fun cars are the pinnacle of automotive evolution, rather than a special branch, cherished by the British.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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This is the same thing that every car magazine in the whole country runs every couple of years and has done ever since BMW bought Rover 14 years ago.

Britain being crap at mainstream, good at low volume and excellent at motorsport is not, in any way, news

Meoricin

2,880 posts

198 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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MarJay said:
_Batty_ said:
Now await all you budding Clarksons, poison fingers ready to hammer home the utter smugness of a ruined industry.
Our car building history is one of the most compelling stories ever to be told.
The early birth, the home grown beauty, style, elegance and speed, all blurred by Unions, poor design, lethargy and contempt.
Today what do we have we left? Most people will happily tell you that MG/Rover’s death was the last in a long line of useless car manufacturers that the home country has produced, and happily lay the size 9’s in for good measure.
But I see things slightly differently. As if the forest fire has cleared the deadwood and weeds from the industry, so now the sun is shining on our small specialists.
Ok so the mass market has gone, our exports are down, and Birmingham is only half full of Chinese, but lets look at what we have left!
Radical, Morgan, Ariel and Caterham are shooting for the new dawn, roots deeply embedded into the countries past. Years of experience drawn from the subsoil, decades of engineering know how taken like the warm sun.
But this is only the start, you see the lessons from the old oaks of the past (British Leyland etc) have been etched into the saplings.
Fresh designs are added onto the existing roots, strong foundations ensured with joint ventures, and a strong single direction (skywards).
F1, one of the pinnacles of motorsport, would be no where would it not be for the engineers born and bred in the Bristols and Healeys of the past.
Only due to the catastrophic failures have we earnt the right to produce some of the quickest, direct, focused road cars on the planet today.
The British population are the harshest judges of our own creations. The lack of patriotism ensures that everyone is after the *best* deal for them. Not the best *British* deal for them.
Some say this is wrong, but I applaud this fact. We choose the cars we want to drive because they are the best at a given set of parameters, no room for complacency.
Survival of the fittest, as Darwin concludes is called Evolution, to which our car industry is doing.

The fire may have only just gone out, but I’m sure you’ll agree, the best is yet to come.
Not being rude but I didn't read all of that. It smacks of a kind of forced fake eloquence that foreign language speakers use to make themselves sound formal... a bit like those scam emails you get asking for money.
Personally I didn't read it because the formatting is terrible. If you can't be bothered to deal with paragraphs, then don't expect people to read your wall of text.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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Meoricin said:
MarJay said:
Not being rude but I didn't read all of that. It smacks of a kind of forced fake eloquence that foreign language speakers use to make themselves sound formal... a bit like those scam emails you get asking for money.
Personally I didn't read it because the formatting is terrible. If you can't be bothered to deal with paragraphs, then don't expect people to read your wall of text.
To be honest, I mainly skim over stuff anyway. I'm training as a copy editor for the news section of Pistonheads you see

nsmith1180

3,941 posts

207 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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The man speaks sense, but he can't format it for st!

I see where he is coming from and agree completly. Its a cycle it think.

The Cycle as I see it! said:
Lets pick a marque - Vauxhall.

Currently has a good product range and will gain sales and market share, possibly domenance as a result.

Will be happy with its product and level of percieved quality, will get off the tread mill and into the pool, stop running and start treading water.

A competitor, most likely Ford but possibly a brand with something to prove like Skoda or Suzuki will realise that Vauxhall has taken its eye off the ball and push to overtake its lead.

Vauxhall will start slipping back down the rankings.

Vauxhalls board will get pissed off and demand improvement which will require years to get on song.

VX will claw its way through sweat, blood and tears to the top of its market, gain market domenance with an exciting(ish) and well engineered product range.

Vauxhall will get compacent and jump back in the pool.

To quote Mr John: Its a Ciiirrrclle of life!