E36 3.0 m3 - A relatively sound investment?
E36 3.0 m3 - A relatively sound investment?
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dylan0451

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1,040 posts

220 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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so, i've been looking at 328's recently. either chavved, rusting, other side of the country etc.

then i realised how little pre evo m3's were going for. is there a reason for this?!

i'm likely to do maybe 8k miles a year, so fuel and insurance isn't ^much of^ an issue, it's just all the scaremongering leads me to believe parts/servicing could be crippling

is this the case? or is it more so the later evo ones?! and are the 3.0's more bomb proof, or do 3.0 owners try to console themselves by playing up the issues that the later 3.2's have?!

dylan0451

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1,040 posts

220 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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well, it's a good point. i'm still looking at 328's, wasn't tarring them all just saying there seems to be a higher proportion that have fallen into the wrong hands than m3's seem to have done.

just don't want to fall into the trap of buying without my eyes being fully open and not being able to stomach the costs...

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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If you can only find chaved up 328s then similarly priced M3s will be money pits.

honest_delboy

1,748 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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If its the saloon on the other thread you're thinking about then get it bought, looks like a really well kept good example.

dylan0451

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220 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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well i have different budgets for the two, for a 328 i wouldn't want to pay more than £3k, and when i say chavved, maybe i mean more drug dealer/gangsta - there seem to be less stock standard ones about. for an m3 i would think between £4-6k would be my budget. don't mind the initial cost really, but if i were spending my upper limit of m3 budget i couldn't be stomaching four figure bills every few months!

dylan0451

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220 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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honest_delboy said:
If its the saloon on the other thread you're thinking about then get it bought, looks like a really well kept good example.
the black one? yeah, for some reason i seem to be the only one that thinks they look better as a 4 door! i want it but i'm worried if 'the norm' is to be spending it's value on repairs/parts/servicing every year?!

honest_delboy

1,748 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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Yeah, the black one, i know there will be a premium on pads/discs/tyres/suspension etc as it is a performance car but apart from the VANOS is there that much else to go wrong over a 328i? Once you've seen the car you'll probably get a feel about how well its been looked after and if its been redlined from cold and driven to the shops using the side windows.

Gulp, quick mental math on my 328i:

Bought £1678 32 months, 10k miles ago.

Spent £800 in parts and servicing in that time... Has gone through 2 MOT's with no probs though.

Frik

13,677 posts

272 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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£800 over 32 months? I'd budget quite a bit more for an M3.

Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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dylan0451 said:
for some reason i seem to be the only one that thinks they look better as a 4 door!
I do too

The e30 looks nice as a 2-door, but from e36 onwards I've favoured the 3-series as a saloon, the coupes just do nothing for me

Edited by Matt UK on Thursday 7th October 21:49

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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Gaz. said:
Frik said:
£800 over 32 months? I'd budget quite a bit more for an M3.
I've spent that on the 318!
hold on here £800 for near on 3 years servicing doesn't seem a lot at all. Seems very normal/ possibly on the light side.

All depends how you look after a car sure buying at the £2-6 k mark your not going to have a prestine car and clearly would skimp on certain areas of replacement parts.

Ie I'm assuming car that age your wiper motor will be well past it's best , hubs on their way out bushes shot dampers way past their best springs lost stiffness/saggy cat con converter well past it's best drivers seat saggy door and boot seals past their best. Etc. Engine gaskets needing replacement, lower compression needing a de coke worn gearbox etc. So knowing that you would clearly not replace them whereas on a more expensive car you would as those parts represent a far lower % of it's Market value whereas some of these are more than the car is worth.

doug1e1972

87 posts

192 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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£800 over 2 years is a bargain tbh, i have spent more than that in the last 6 months (new altenator,battery,waterpump, belt and tensoner, front wishbone bushs,rear bushs,bonnetcatch and a few other bits and bobs) and thats only on a 6 year old sportka. oh i do expect to be splashing out more soon cause im a overfussy sod really.





chris7676

2,685 posts

249 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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I would say great value, not necessary investment. I don't believe there is much difference in running costs between the 328 and the M3.

E30M3SE

8,493 posts

225 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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chris7676 said:
I would say great value, not necessary investment. I don't believe there is much difference in running costs between the 328 and the M3.
There are routine servicing jobs that exist for a M3 that do not for a 328, valve clearences being just one throttle balance being another.

ManOpener

12,467 posts

198 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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dylan0451 said:
honest_delboy said:
If its the saloon on the other thread you're thinking about then get it bought, looks like a really well kept good example.
the black one? yeah, for some reason i seem to be the only one that thinks they look better as a 4 door! i want it but i'm worried if 'the norm' is to be spending it's value on repairs/parts/servicing every year?!
So I'm not the only one who prefers the saloon? There's something very 90's touring car about it.

Ciaran

1,474 posts

231 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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ManOpener said:
dylan0451 said:
honest_delboy said:
If its the saloon on the other thread you're thinking about then get it bought, looks like a really well kept good example.
the black one? yeah, for some reason i seem to be the only one that thinks they look better as a 4 door! i want it but i'm worried if 'the norm' is to be spending it's value on repairs/parts/servicing every year?!
So I'm not the only one who prefers the saloon? There's something very 90's touring car about it.
Do you have a link for it?

Always liked the sport saloon, not too many about.

ATM

21,324 posts

248 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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ManOpener said:
dylan0451 said:
honest_delboy said:
If its the saloon on the other thread you're thinking about then get it bought, looks like a really well kept good example.
the black one? yeah, for some reason i seem to be the only one that thinks they look better as a 4 door! i want it but i'm worried if 'the norm' is to be spending it's value on repairs/parts/servicing every year?!
So I'm not the only one who prefers the saloon? There's something very 90's touring car about it.
Also most chavs go for the coupe so the saloon looks less chav.

shoestring7

6,193 posts

275 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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Only if you can find one of the rare GT homologation jobs.

SS7

ManOpener

12,467 posts

198 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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ATM said:
ManOpener said:
dylan0451 said:
honest_delboy said:
If its the saloon on the other thread you're thinking about then get it bought, looks like a really well kept good example.
the black one? yeah, for some reason i seem to be the only one that thinks they look better as a 4 door! i want it but i'm worried if 'the norm' is to be spending it's value on repairs/parts/servicing every year?!
So I'm not the only one who prefers the saloon? There's something very 90's touring car about it.
Also most chavs go for the coupe so the saloon looks less chav.
Better proportioned too, I think. Same with the E90/E92- the saloon looks better than the coupe.

unpc

2,997 posts

242 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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dylan0451 said:
then i realised how little pre evo m3's were going for. is there a reason for this?!
Yes. They're not very good. I had one for 2 years. Grew to hate it after one month. In truth, it's a great engine in a very average car.

BUG4LIFE

2,516 posts

247 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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Think I read somewhere that there were less 328 coupes made than M3 coupes? I bought my 328 Sport nearly a year ago for £4k - though with 1 owner, 50k miles on the clock and totally standard, I was happy smile The gorgeous BBS rims are in poor condition though, so that's a job for next year. I think the 328 Sport is going to become very sought after, like a Corrado and Mk2 16v Golf, as so few good ones are about that haven't got mega mileage.