Bravo's Deadly Mission
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dougc said:
^^ try asking the women that question?
Oh no, you can't, because it's a medieval country...
Yup. I'm sure that episode wasn't indicative of the whole situation but it paints a bleak picture this far on.Oh no, you can't, because it's a medieval country...
It seems a bit hopeless though with the Afghan police/army being from the 'wrong' tribe to make the locals feel they can trust them. It just looks like as soon as the coalition forces leave the Talliban are coming back in and the locals are all simply waiting (and some apparently wanting) it to happen. Does anyone who knows more about it have a more optimistic appraisal of the situation over there?
Will 'we' ever manage to set up the start of an effective functioning nation that can make the Talliban somehow irrelevant.
Edited by el stovey on Thursday 7th October 22:42
el stovey said:
but it paints a bleak picture this far on....
Will 'we' ever manage to set up the start of an effective functioning nation that can make the Talliban somehow irrelevant.
Let's face it, when you're only there because of the ego and simple mindedness of the biggest imbecile to run ANY country, let alone "the most powerful nation on Earth" (not my description), the situation will only ever be bleak.Will 'we' ever manage to set up the start of an effective functioning nation that can make the Talliban somehow irrelevant.
el stovey said:
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Will 'we' ever manage to set up the start of an effective functioning nation that can make the Talliban somehow irrelevant.
Nope. Not in our life times. Perhaps never.Will 'we' ever manage to set up the start of an effective functioning nation that can make the Talliban somehow irrelevant.
And here we jolly Brits have...well, everything to answer for. Though we weren't the first race to spread ourselves all over the world implementing what we believed to be the only "right" system.
That region is, and always has been tribal. Trying to overlay our own ideas of democracy and government onto that back drop is quite simply never going to work. And the older you get, and the more you realise how our own system works, who the f
k can blame other nations for not wanting to toe the line?The biggest tragedy is that our soldiers and their citizens are dying every day as a result. The sooner we get our boys the f
k out of there totally the better. Let's not wait quite as long as the Soviets did, eh Mr Cameron. If it helps, it might even help your (our) budget deficit.I wasn;t sure what to expect with this and I have to say I was a bit, well not dissapointed but sort of not sure what it was trying to be....
the face to face was gripping and you could see the soldiers were very moved, and the idea of the compensation is I think difficult to reconcile in those circumstancs but I beleive due to the soldiers' behaviour that it isn't a token gesture like a value per life. they mean it as a genuine apology.
also shockign was the young kid - I missed the end - was he killed? such maturity and so angry about waht was going on...
difficult to reconcile why allies are there. but as a piece of documentary I think it struggled to get any message over. It looked disorganised from a military OP perspective - i'm no expert - but it looked like 1 step forward 2 back and then it jumped to having achieved thenext objective / building. a bit disjointed, so it wasn't a real fly on the wall and it wasn't political enough for me to be a point making exercise...
a very good effort though, and hopefully ground breaking in that we will get more of this type of doc.
the face to face was gripping and you could see the soldiers were very moved, and the idea of the compensation is I think difficult to reconcile in those circumstancs but I beleive due to the soldiers' behaviour that it isn't a token gesture like a value per life. they mean it as a genuine apology.
also shockign was the young kid - I missed the end - was he killed? such maturity and so angry about waht was going on...
difficult to reconcile why allies are there. but as a piece of documentary I think it struggled to get any message over. It looked disorganised from a military OP perspective - i'm no expert - but it looked like 1 step forward 2 back and then it jumped to having achieved thenext objective / building. a bit disjointed, so it wasn't a real fly on the wall and it wasn't political enough for me to be a point making exercise...
a very good effort though, and hopefully ground breaking in that we will get more of this type of doc.
Nom de ploom said:
also shockign was the young kid - I missed the end - was he killed? such maturity and so angry about waht was going on...
He wasn't actually a child, they said he was twenty something, aka Jimmy Krankie as someone else commented. I guess he got too friendly with the sceptics.Very interesting program, glad i caught it on +1 after seeing this thread last night
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