Anyone Driven Or Owned Any Of These 80's/90's 'Supercars'?
Discussion
A good friend of mine has driven most of those cars.
Two cars that he claims stood head and shoulders above the rest back in the 80s were the SWB Quattro and Porsche 959.
Unfortunately I've not had the opportunity to experience any of those cars but if I did have a chance to drive one of them, I'd be opting for the F40. It's one of my all time favourites!
Two cars that he claims stood head and shoulders above the rest back in the 80s were the SWB Quattro and Porsche 959.
Unfortunately I've not had the opportunity to experience any of those cars but if I did have a chance to drive one of them, I'd be opting for the F40. It's one of my all time favourites!
Robatr0n said:
A good friend of mine has driven most of those cars.
Two cars that he claims stood head and shoulders above the rest back in the 80s were the SWB Quattro and Porsche 959.
Unfortunately I've not had the opportunity to experience any of those cars but if I did have a chance to drive one of them, I'd be opting for the F40. It's one of my all time favourites!
Yes the F40 for me too. There was a buyer's guide in Octane this month. Two cars that he claims stood head and shoulders above the rest back in the 80s were the SWB Quattro and Porsche 959.
Unfortunately I've not had the opportunity to experience any of those cars but if I did have a chance to drive one of them, I'd be opting for the F40. It's one of my all time favourites!
Prices are only going up as well on them; in 20 years time they'll be 250GTO territory.
daveco said:
Prices are only going up as well on them; in 20 years time they'll be 250GTO territory.
No they wont. Not even close.Compared to the other 'Super Ferraris' (288 GTO, F50, Enzo) the F40 was mass produced with over 1,300 produced (1,311 if my geeky memory serves me well).
Not rare enough and no real racing history so never going to get to 250 GTO money.
The only modern car which has the potential to reach really, really big money in the next few decades IMO is the McLaren F1
Edited by Davey S2 on Friday 8th October 12:56
Davey S2 said:
daveco said:
Prices are only going up as well on them; in 20 years time they'll be 250GTO territory.
No they wont. Not even close.Compared to the other 'Super Ferraris' (288 GTO, F50, Enzo) the F40 was mass produced with over 1,300 produced (1,311 if my geeky memory serves me well).
Not rare enough and no real racing history so never going to get to 250 GTO money.
The only modern car which has the potential to reach really, really big money in the next few decades IMO is the McLaren F1
Interestingly, the F40 STILL comes out ahead, as it has in every comparison I've ever read and being my favourite car of all time, I've read a lot!
They're in the 250-300K bracket these days (was 150-200 not so long ago), but I for one am happy they're common enough not to go the way of the GTO - At least a medium lottery win would be enough to own one even if just for a year or two.
They might not be super-valuable like 250 GTOs, but they are undoubtedly the modern equivalent in terms of being great to drive and having a genuine racing pedigree.
Sure the F1 was more successful, but the F40 was out of production by the time it was taking on F1s and it still beat the massed ranks on occassions.
M.
Edited by marcosgt on Friday 8th October 13:27
marcosgt said:
Davey S2 said:
daveco said:
Prices are only going up as well on them; in 20 years time they'll be 250GTO territory.
No they wont. Not even close.Compared to the other 'Super Ferraris' (288 GTO, F50, Enzo) the F40 was mass produced with over 1,300 produced (1,311 if my geeky memory serves me well).
Not rare enough and no real racing history so never going to get to 250 GTO money.
The only modern car which has the potential to reach really, really big money in the next few decades IMO is the McLaren F1
Interestingly, the F40 STILL comes out ahead, as it has in every comparison I've ever read and being my favourite car of all time, I've read a lot!
They're in the 250-300K bracket these days (was 150-200 not so long ago), but I for one am happy they're common enough not to go the way of the GTO - At least a medium lottery win would be enough to own one even if just for a year or two.
They might not be super-valuable like 250 GTOs, but they are undoubtedly the modern equivalent in terms of being great to drive and having a genuine racing pedigree.
Sure the F1 was more successful, but the F40 was out of production by the time it was taking on F1s and it still beat the massed ranks on occassions.
M.
Edited by marcosgt on Friday 8th October 13:27
The F40 was the last car Enzo presided over and is also a "race spec" road Ferrari. Over 1,300 produced but a fairly substantial percentage of those have been written off. As M GT explained their prices are increasing quickly; during the boom times 5 years ago they could be picked up for 200-250k and now fetch up to 400k. One of the main draws with the F40 is its' weight and 'rawness', so to speak. 1100kg and 480hp are still serious figures today and will remain so for some time to come as cars continue to balloon.
I might have been a tad unrealistic to think they'd reach 250GTO prices, but I still think in 20 years time a good example will go for serious money.
jag xj220 when i was about 14.
My dad took a wrong turning whilst visiting silverstone. ended up with security waving us through, and being ushered over the bridge into the pits, on what appeared to be a drivers+family day. some guy who my dad recognised from the telly offered me a go in one, so drove second gear only up and down the pit lane.
edit: think i would have been a bit younger, poss 12/13
My dad took a wrong turning whilst visiting silverstone. ended up with security waving us through, and being ushered over the bridge into the pits, on what appeared to be a drivers+family day. some guy who my dad recognised from the telly offered me a go in one, so drove second gear only up and down the pit lane.
edit: think i would have been a bit younger, poss 12/13
Edited by cmackay81 on Friday 8th October 14:37
cmackay81 said:
jag xj220 when i was about 14.
My dad took a wrong turning whilst visiting silverstone. ended up with security waving us through, and being ushered over the bridge into the pits, on what appeared to be a drivers+family day. some guy who my dad recognised from the telly offered me a go in one, so drove second gear only up and down the pit lane.
really?My dad took a wrong turning whilst visiting silverstone. ended up with security waving us through, and being ushered over the bridge into the pits, on what appeared to be a drivers+family day. some guy who my dad recognised from the telly offered me a go in one, so drove second gear only up and down the pit lane.
CraigW said:
cmackay81 said:
jag xj220 when i was about 14.
My dad took a wrong turning whilst visiting silverstone. ended up with security waving us through, and being ushered over the bridge into the pits, on what appeared to be a drivers+family day. some guy who my dad recognised from the telly offered me a go in one, so drove second gear only up and down the pit lane.
really?My dad took a wrong turning whilst visiting silverstone. ended up with security waving us through, and being ushered over the bridge into the pits, on what appeared to be a drivers+family day. some guy who my dad recognised from the telly offered me a go in one, so drove second gear only up and down the pit lane.
guess the security figured us for someone important.
after the pits we were taken along with some other drivers+families to the canteen place and fed for free. very bizarre day, at least my dad had taught me enough by then to keep my mouth shut and just enjoy!
he recognised some of the drivers from f1, however i was a bit young to remember any of them. one may have been brundle?!?
marcosgt said:
Davey S2 said:
daveco said:
Prices are only going up as well on them; in 20 years time they'll be 250GTO territory.
No they wont. Not even close.Compared to the other 'Super Ferraris' (288 GTO, F50, Enzo) the F40 was mass produced with over 1,300 produced (1,311 if my geeky memory serves me well).
Not rare enough and no real racing history so never going to get to 250 GTO money.
The only modern car which has the potential to reach really, really big money in the next few decades IMO is the McLaren F1
Interestingly, the F40 STILL comes out ahead, as it has in every comparison I've ever read and being my favourite car of all time, I've read a lot!
They're in the 250-300K bracket these days (was 150-200 not so long ago), but I for one am happy they're common enough not to go the way of the GTO - At least a medium lottery win would be enough to own one even if just for a year or two.
They might not be super-valuable like 250 GTOs, but they are undoubtedly the modern equivalent in terms of being great to drive and having a genuine racing pedigree.
Sure the F1 was more successful, but the F40 was out of production by the time it was taking on F1s and it still beat the massed ranks on occassions.
M.
Edited by marcosgt on Friday 8th October 13:27
Oh and the F50 was voted best super Ferrari in the EVO test of the 288 GTO, F40, F50 and Enzo.
I wouldnt mind any of them
Jgtv said:
daveco said:
Although I think its going to take a lottery win to get if for me anytime soon.
Doesn'tseem to matter to me that it looks identical to a Nissan 300zx
Davey S2 said:
I dont disagree that they are brilliant raw drivers cars and a absolute classic. I was just pointing out that they wont ever get to 250 GTO levels of value and desirability.
Oh and the F50 was voted best super Ferrari in the EVO test of the 288 GTO, F40, F50 and Enzo.
Oh and the F50 was voted best super Ferrari in the EVO test of the 288 GTO, F40, F50 and Enzo.
+1With over 30 times as many 40's to GTO's, there just isn’t the rarity that you have with the pre FIAT cars.
The one thing that they do have in common with GTO's, is that they are almost un-scrapable, the simplicity of the design and construction, coupled with the current value, meaning that only the biggest of accidents will result in one being written off.
The bit of the myth surrounding them that makes me
is the connection between Enzo and the F40 that some people spout, yes he did announce the car, but at the time of the 40's launch he was almost 90 years old and hadn’t been a driving force at the factory for some time, getting into or out of one, would alone have presented a few problems for him (arguably the 412 was the last car he had any direct development input into) 
And it’s best not to get into the whole “it’s got racing heritage” argument as they were simply a very much modified 3x8 (which in itself had a chassis which was based on the 206 Dino) which had no real factory racing heritage, bar the post production work carried out by Michelotto .
Edited by AndrewW-G on Friday 8th October 15:42
blindswelledrat said:
Jgtv said:
daveco said:
Although I think its going to take a lottery win to get if for me anytime soon.
Doesn'tseem to matter to me that it looks identical to a Nissan 300zx
Awesome car - My local Rover dealer used to have one in the showroom.
someone said:
And it’s best not to get into the whole “it’s got racing heritage” argument as they were simply a very much modified 3x8 (which in itself had a chassis which was based on the 206 Dino) which had no real factory racing heritage, bar the post production work carried out by Michelotto
So - How has it NOT got racing heritage? Nothing races STOCK anymore (not even McLaren F1s), so the success the F40s had in the BPR series are just as relevant as anything else since the 1960s. The 288 GTO, F50 and Enzo have zero racing history as far as I'm aware - F40 wins... M.
Edited by marcosgt on Friday 8th October 17:39
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