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Apologies for excessive acronymity!
I've noticed over the past few months that I've been getting dazzled by people who appear to be driving around in daylight with their full beams on! I never really noticed this when I was working in an office, but I've recently been driving during the day and it's really noticeable. I assume these are HID daytime running lights? It really pisses me off. I've tried flashing, but to no avail. People just ignore me, or assume I'm a
. (OK, so I am a . But it's not me that's blinding you!)
I've seen what I thought were DRLs on Volvos for years, but they were always more like permanently-activated dipped beams. That's fine, and it never bothered me (though I thought it a bit weird, since we do have this thing called "the sun", that, despite being 93,000,000 miles away, generally provides an adequate amount of light). But these, that I now presume are true DRLs, are more like permanently-activated full beams, with double plus xenon, and an extra retina destruction factor, controlled by some dial that's been turned to 12, on a scale of 10. Or maybe 9. Please, for the love of God, could you all please just fk off? 
Am I the only one so affected? Is there some kind of petition I can sign, to get you bds off the road? I expect this kind of behaviour from drivers of expensive German cockmobiles, but I was dazzled by a VW thing the other day!-- at 3pm! -- I mean, Jesus Christ, if I'm going to get blinded, at least spend £50K on your heap of ste, thanks for nothing you cheapskate mother fker.
Really sorry, but I don't know what to do about this. Hide in a cave? Suck it up? fk off and die? Get some blindingly bright lights for the cheap German cockmobile that I call my own? (Hey, but at least it won't blind ya ) Advice, please...
I've noticed over the past few months that I've been getting dazzled by people who appear to be driving around in daylight with their full beams on! I never really noticed this when I was working in an office, but I've recently been driving during the day and it's really noticeable. I assume these are HID daytime running lights? It really pisses me off. I've tried flashing, but to no avail. People just ignore me, or assume I'm a
. (OK, so I am a . But it's not me that's blinding you!)I've seen what I thought were DRLs on Volvos for years, but they were always more like permanently-activated dipped beams. That's fine, and it never bothered me (though I thought it a bit weird, since we do have this thing called "the sun", that, despite being 93,000,000 miles away, generally provides an adequate amount of light). But these, that I now presume are true DRLs, are more like permanently-activated full beams, with double plus xenon, and an extra retina destruction factor, controlled by some dial that's been turned to 12, on a scale of 10. Or maybe 9. Please, for the love of God, could you all please just f
k off? Am I the only one so affected? Is there some kind of petition I can sign, to get you b
ds off the road? I expect this kind of behaviour from drivers of expensive German cockmobiles, but I was dazzled by a VW thing the other day!-- at 3pm! -- I mean, Jesus Christ, if I'm going to get blinded, at least spend £50K on your heap of ste, thanks for nothing you cheapskate mother fker.Really sorry, but I don't know what to do about this. Hide in a cave? Suck it up? f
k off and die? Get some blindingly bright lights for the cheap German cockmobile that I call my own? (Hey, but at least it won't blind ya ) Advice, please...to3m said:
Apologies for excessive acronymity!
I've noticed over the past few months that I've been getting dazzled by people who appear to be driving around in daylight with their full beams on! I never really noticed this when I was working in an office, but I've recently been driving during the day and it's really noticeable. I assume these are HID daytime running lights? It really pisses me off. I've tried flashing, but to no avail. People just ignore me, or assume I'm a. (OK, so I am a . But it's not me that's blinding you!)
I've seen what I thought were DRLs on Volvos for years, but they were always more like permanently-activated dipped beams. That's fine, and it never bothered me (though I thought it a bit weird, since we do have this thing called "the sun", that, despite being 93,000,000 miles away, generally provides an adequate amount of light). But these, that I now presume are true DRLs, are more like permanently-activated full beams, with double plus xenon, and an extra retina destruction factor, controlled by some dial that's been turned to 12, on a scale of 10. Or maybe 9. Please, for the love of God, could you all please just fk off?
Am I the only one so affected? Is there some kind of petition I can sign, to get you bds off the road? I expect this kind of behaviour from drivers of expensive German cockmobiles, but I was dazzled by a VW thing the other day!-- at 3pm! -- I mean, Jesus Christ, if I'm going to get blinded, at least spend £50K on your heap of ste, thanks for nothing you cheapskate mother fker.
Really sorry, but I don't know what to do about this. Hide in a cave? Suck it up? fk off and die? Get some blindingly bright lights for the cheap German cockmobile that I call my own? (Hey, but at least it won't blind ya ) Advice, please...
They are just LED lights which are housed individually so they are extremely bright. Nothing anyone can do about it. I bet the Volvos are not looking so bright anymore are they! I turned mine off, it kills the Xenon lights to have them on/off everytime you start/stop the car.I've noticed over the past few months that I've been getting dazzled by people who appear to be driving around in daylight with their full beams on! I never really noticed this when I was working in an office, but I've recently been driving during the day and it's really noticeable. I assume these are HID daytime running lights? It really pisses me off. I've tried flashing, but to no avail. People just ignore me, or assume I'm a
. (OK, so I am a . But it's not me that's blinding you!)I've seen what I thought were DRLs on Volvos for years, but they were always more like permanently-activated dipped beams. That's fine, and it never bothered me (though I thought it a bit weird, since we do have this thing called "the sun", that, despite being 93,000,000 miles away, generally provides an adequate amount of light). But these, that I now presume are true DRLs, are more like permanently-activated full beams, with double plus xenon, and an extra retina destruction factor, controlled by some dial that's been turned to 12, on a scale of 10. Or maybe 9. Please, for the love of God, could you all please just f
k off? Am I the only one so affected? Is there some kind of petition I can sign, to get you b
ds off the road? I expect this kind of behaviour from drivers of expensive German cockmobiles, but I was dazzled by a VW thing the other day!-- at 3pm! -- I mean, Jesus Christ, if I'm going to get blinded, at least spend £50K on your heap of ste, thanks for nothing you cheapskate mother fker.Really sorry, but I don't know what to do about this. Hide in a cave? Suck it up? f
k off and die? Get some blindingly bright lights for the cheap German cockmobile that I call my own? (Hey, but at least it won't blind ya ) Advice, please...yes they do my head in too
the stupid ruling bringing it in http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?...
most manufacturers are adding the drls in preparation and very few are giving people with cars manufactured before the deadline the function to turn them off
the stupid ruling bringing it in http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?...
most manufacturers are adding the drls in preparation and very few are giving people with cars manufactured before the deadline the function to turn them off
Ben Jk said:
My new Audi A4 S-Line has LED DRLs. I love them. I do notice people looking at them though probably thinking, "why has that cock got his lights on"
Why's that then? They're just lights. Annoying lights, but just lights all the same.Oh, it's an S-Line. Apologies, please excuse me.
Acually, having lights on during the day makes the car appear the correct distance from you...a car without headlights on appears further away...have a look next time you are out....
my car BMW 535d had auto headlights (not xenons) and i leave it on auto all the time.....if they come on during the day, no problems.....that's life....it is worse to have badly adjusted headlights blinding you during the night...or 4x4s which have xenons...nightmare..but gotta just get on with it...life too short to worry about it....
my car BMW 535d had auto headlights (not xenons) and i leave it on auto all the time.....if they come on during the day, no problems.....that's life....it is worse to have badly adjusted headlights blinding you during the night...or 4x4s which have xenons...nightmare..but gotta just get on with it...life too short to worry about it....
DRL's are there to get your attention,so you notice the car. TBH i think its not going to make sod all difference, On the golf i have found in the menu the option to switch them off, so thats been done! but the DRLs are main beam at 21w so if your in a low car coming towards it they are going to be uncomfortable on the eye.
Im not going to start on the Audi moron on the M5 that was driving in pretty much near darkness with just his DRL's on...
And they wonder why they get labled as such.
Im not going to start on the Audi moron on the M5 that was driving in pretty much near darkness with just his DRL's on...
And they wonder why they get labled as such.
DennisTheMenace said:
DRL's are there to get your attention,so you notice the car. TBH i think its not going to make sod all difference
A test in Denmark disagrees with you. It was a pretty much overnight change that cars must drive with lights on at all times and RTAs were reduced by 10% immediately.I used to get frustrated by bright DRLs during the day, but the amount of incorrectly adjusted headlights on the roads (and how susceptible you are to them in the VX) has just led me to leave my mirror on dipped constantly to prevent getting blinded. It's just part of owning the car that you'll get blinded by lights.
I turn my HID headlights on regardless of the weather, in the Integra.
It dramatically reduces the amount of fking morons, that look at my car, see it coming and just pull out anyway. Now they look, SEE, register in their tiny brains a car is coming and wait.
Bright car lights do not blind you if you do not stare straight at them. I don't care if any narrow minded idiots whine, my headlights on the Integra will always go on if it reduces the chance of an accident.
The Volvo has DRLs anyway.
I get dazzled and annoyed more at penises with halogen lights that are badly adjusted and aim at the sky, than any HIDs or DRLs that I have ever seen.
It dramatically reduces the amount of f
king morons, that look at my car, see it coming and just pull out anyway. Now they look, SEE, register in their tiny brains a car is coming and wait.Bright car lights do not blind you if you do not stare straight at them. I don't care if any narrow minded idiots whine, my headlights on the Integra will always go on if it reduces the chance of an accident.
The Volvo has DRLs anyway.
I get dazzled and annoyed more at penises with halogen lights that are badly adjusted and aim at the sky, than any HIDs or DRLs that I have ever seen.
useyourdellusion said:
Ben Jk said:
My new Audi A4 S-Line has LED DRLs. I love them. I do notice people looking at them though probably thinking, "why has that cock got his lights on"
Why's that then? They're just lights. Annoying lights, but just lights all the same.Oh, it's an S-Line. Apologies, please excuse me.
I'm not surprised at the Denmark test results. I say that the sun provides enough light (and that's a statement I still stand by!) but having sidelights permanently on is potentially useful. (That's actually what I meant by Volvos having dipped beams on permanently! Not that you could tell, because I didn't say it. And I could be wrong anyway -- whatever, I certainly don't recall them ever being blinding.) That's enough light to catch your eye, but not enough to fry it in its socket. Many of the DRLs I've been zapped by are certainly well into the eyeball-frying range. Makes it harder to spot indicators, and if you're having to look away from oncoming traffic... that doesn't seem to me like a great idea.
I don't think arguments like "they look nice" really stand up to scrutiny, in my view. I don't know where you sit when you're driving, but me? -- I'm inside the car There's 1 of me, sitting where I can't see the lights, and 5,999,999,999 of you, potentially getting your eyeballs burnt to a crisp (well you would if my car had HID lights anyway). And there's the sun, providing generally enough light to see by. So maybe I could justify having not-particularly-bright side lights on, just in case I'm driving through a dark patch. But could i justify the super-high-intensity blinding lasers that many cars sport? To my mind... not so much.
And the "don't stare straight at them" suggestion is only somewhat valid, I'd argue. Possibly I'm doing more of that than I should? Maybe so. But I'm not sure that's a bad thing! So as I'm driving along, I look straight at a variety of different things as I go. Perhaps there's a car in front of me, say, relative speed 1-2mph perhaps. I can keep an eye on it out of the corner of my eye, mostly, because the brake lights pop on when it starts to slow. And maybe there's one behind me -- they tend to look after themselves, by and large, and I can't spend all day looking at my rear view mirror anyway. And there's one oncoming, let's say -- relative speed, 50-60mph. At least. Out of all the possible things available to stare it, no matter how briefly (and it doesn't take long for your vision to be zapped), I really think that oncoming cars are one of the more sensible choices. You can argue the toss about the details of my argument, but I think the overall thrust remains sound: oncoming vehicles are basically the most dangerous things you're going to meet, and if you're going to keep an eye on anything, it should be them.
Anyway, perhaps I'll just have to get used to it. It certainly seems like I'm in the minority! And whilst I'm a bit concerned about the relative visibility of non-incredibly-bright objects (e.g., pedestrians, bollards, etc.), if they're going to become obligatory we'll find out the hard way whether that's a big deal
I don't think arguments like "they look nice" really stand up to scrutiny, in my view. I don't know where you sit when you're driving, but me? -- I'm inside the car
There's 1 of me, sitting where I can't see the lights, and 5,999,999,999 of you, potentially getting your eyeballs burnt to a crisp (well you would if my car had HID lights anyway). And there's the sun, providing generally enough light to see by. So maybe I could justify having not-particularly-bright side lights on, just in case I'm driving through a dark patch. But could i justify the super-high-intensity blinding lasers that many cars sport? To my mind... not so much.And the "don't stare straight at them" suggestion is only somewhat valid, I'd argue. Possibly I'm doing more of that than I should? Maybe so. But I'm not sure that's a bad thing! So as I'm driving along, I look straight at a variety of different things as I go. Perhaps there's a car in front of me, say, relative speed 1-2mph perhaps. I can keep an eye on it out of the corner of my eye, mostly, because the brake lights pop on when it starts to slow. And maybe there's one behind me -- they tend to look after themselves, by and large, and I can't spend all day looking at my rear view mirror anyway. And there's one oncoming, let's say -- relative speed, 50-60mph. At least. Out of all the possible things available to stare it, no matter how briefly (and it doesn't take long for your vision to be zapped), I really think that oncoming cars are one of the more sensible choices. You can argue the toss about the details of my argument, but I think the overall thrust remains sound: oncoming vehicles are basically the most dangerous things you're going to meet, and if you're going to keep an eye on anything, it should be them.
Anyway, perhaps I'll just have to get used to it. It certainly seems like I'm in the minority! And whilst I'm a bit concerned about the relative visibility of non-incredibly-bright objects (e.g., pedestrians, bollards, etc.), if they're going to become obligatory we'll find out the hard way whether that's a big deal
Edited by to3m on Sunday 10th October 23:11
Interestingly, in Australia (they have an even bigger and better sun than us down there!) they have signs telling you to use dipped headlights in daylight. 'Dipped lights save lives, switch yours on.' or words to that effect. On a long straight in searingly bright sunlight it makes a massive difference- it's twice as easy to spot the car and much easier to judge distances for overtaking as well.
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