Bought a car with an under-reading speedo
Bought a car with an under-reading speedo
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rasputin

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1,449 posts

235 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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I have just bought a 2001 2.5 V6 Jaguar X-Type. I will pick it up later this week.

But on the test drive I noticed that the speedo under-reads!

With the speedo reading 30mph, the car felt a bit too fast so I turned on my TomTom - and sure enough my real speed was 37mph!

Most cars I've driven have over-read, so at an indicated 30mph they were really doing 27ish. So there's quite a big difference there.

The tyres are all the correct size.

What else could be causing that?

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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Under-read is illegal although not tested on the MOT. Wheel and tyre sizes usually.

snoopstah

391 posts

252 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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rasputin said:
What else could be causing that?
Does the ABS work?

Does the dash always read ~7mph over the actual speed, or does it always read ~23% over the actual speed?

Worst case, the gauge is faulty. Would probably require a whole new cluster unit on a car like that, unfortunately.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

284 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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Has it had aftermarket white/coloured dials fitted? You often have to remove the needles from the gauges for these and it seems a lot of people don't even consider marking the positions of the originals...

rasputin

Original Poster:

1,449 posts

235 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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Dash looks original, wheels and tyres are correct size and there are no warning lights about ABS (although I didn't actually test it!).

Can a speedo just lose accuracy over time and need to be recalibrated?

DennisTheMenace

15,605 posts

297 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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You might be able to get it recalibrated at a garage through the E-OBD. On some vehicles its adjustable for winter tyres etc

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

221 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Someone has had the instruments apart to reset the mileage and not set the dial correctly (least of your worries!)

Other option is some electronic computer issue, either way I'd walk away!

DennisTheMenace

15,605 posts

297 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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They dont need to pull the cluster apart to reset the mileage, it can all be done throughteh diagnostic socket.

bazking69

8,620 posts

219 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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I'd have satisfied myself of a legitimate reason before buying personally.

andy43

13,155 posts

283 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Worst 'I've just been got by a scamera van doing 37 in a 30' ever. Nice try hehe

kambites

71,453 posts

250 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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of course the odometer will be underreading too. If it says it's done 60k miles, it's probably actually done 74k (assuming it hasn't been clocked).

BlueEyedBoy

1,954 posts

225 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Say you were caught speeding, and "were not aware of the speedo issue", would you have a leg in court. If you could show your car indicated that you were not speeding, would you get off at least once claiming you were not aware of the issue? I mean before the days of satnav, how would you know?

kambites

71,453 posts

250 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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BlueEyedBoy said:
Say you were caught speeding, and "were not aware of the speedo issue", would you have a leg in court. If you could show your car indicated that you were not speeding, would you get off at least once claiming you were not aware of the issue? I mean before the days of satnav, how would you know?
No. The onus is on you to make sure that you are not breaking the law. You might manage to sue the car maker for damages, I suppose.

inman999

34,954 posts

202 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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The speedo on my MX5 under-reads too. It also sticks at 61 mph and requires a tap on the dash to bring it back down. I keep meaning to take it apart but have got used to just relying on the sat nav for speed.

Rich1973

1,277 posts

206 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Perhaps you could ask in the jag section or on a jaguar forum how the speedo works on a 4wd X type. Matbe it has had a replacement diff from a 3.0 litre and the ratios are different.
Sounds like it might be one to be wary of, or at least insist it is rectified before collection. Have you thought about having say a RAC inspection done on the car for piece of mind?

Richard

stuart-b

3,651 posts

255 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Doesn't this also mean that its done a lot more miles than the speedo says?

FreeLitres

6,128 posts

206 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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I have not heard of this problem with the X-Types.

Might be worth asking on jaguarforum.co.uk - there are some Jaguar technicians on there who might have see it before.


MarsellusWallace

1,180 posts

230 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Take it to your local tacograph testing station and they will tell you exactly how much it is underreading by at different speeds.I'd put a blob of permanent marker at the correct increments for the time being so you don't get caught out by a speed camera

matt21

4,383 posts

233 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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w...a...l...k...a...w...a...y!

Jag's are ten a penny. Buy a goodun

B'stard Child

31,063 posts

275 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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rasputin said:
I have just bought a 2001 2.5 V6 Jaguar X-Type. I will pick it up later this week.

But on the test drive I noticed that the speedo under-reads!

With the speedo reading 30mph, the car felt a bit too fast so I turned on my TomTom - and sure enough my real speed was 37mph!

Most cars I've driven have over-read, so at an indicated 30mph they were really doing 27ish. So there's quite a big difference there.

The tyres are all the correct size.

What else could be causing that?
Why on earth would anyone test drive a car with an obvious issue (with no idea of what is the cause or what will fix it) and then still agree to buy..... no offence but it just seems daft

Edited by B'stard Child on Tuesday 12th October 00:09