Seen a pub for sale that would make a great house....
Seen a pub for sale that would make a great house....
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buzzer

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3,618 posts

263 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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And it's only £275k freehold.... Where's the catch?

stainless_steve

6,046 posts

281 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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Change of use?

Magog

2,653 posts

212 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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stainless_steve said:
Change of use?
Easily solved...


Simpo Two

91,328 posts

288 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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Last pub I saw for sale had VAT on it - bit of a dealbreaker.

buzzer

Original Poster:

3,618 posts

263 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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Even with VAT it's still cheap....

Martin Keene

11,059 posts

248 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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There probably isn't.

A friend of my parents bought an old pub and converted it to a nice house, and to top it off, built a pair of semis on the car park.

Slagathore

6,183 posts

215 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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How does the planning work?

Don't you have to show that there is no interest to have it back as a pub, then they'll grant the change of use?



davepoth

29,395 posts

222 months

Sunday 10th October 2010
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to get the change of use you'd have to prove it wasn't being used. Easy enough if you really want to.

netherfield

3,061 posts

207 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Over the last ten years,three pubs within the area have been converted to houses,trouble is they still look like pubs no matter what is done to them.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

228 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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netherfield said:
Over the last ten years,three pubs within the area have been converted to houses,trouble is they still look like pubs no matter what is done to them.
And this is a bad thing how?!

Flintstone

8,644 posts

270 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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hornetrider said:
netherfield said:
Over the last ten years,three pubs within the area have been converted to houses,trouble is they still look like pubs no matter what is done to them.
And this is a bad thing how?!

NDT

1,766 posts

286 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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davepoth said:
to get the change of use you'd have to prove it wasn't being used. Easy enough if you really want to.
There was a pub near us in Bedfordshire that someone tried to change the use of. Nightmare.
It was in a tiny little village that already had another pub, but a load of supposed customers (mostly from another village) raised a hell of a fuss about it.
Of course if they'd been spending enough cash in there in the first place the pub wouldn't have closed...

In the end the poor sod who'd bought it gave in as the council wouldn't let them change the use. It's now a curry house with a bar.

Grandad Gaz

5,259 posts

269 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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bigweb

833 posts

251 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Flintstone said:
hornetrider said:
netherfield said:
Over the last ten years,three pubs within the area have been converted to houses,trouble is they still look like pubs no matter what is done to them.
And this is a bad thing how?!
What a random place to post that! I dont live far from this its in Chinatown Liverpool. The Picture is a Banksy I think.

bimsb6

8,602 posts

244 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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NDT said:
davepoth said:
to get the change of use you'd have to prove it wasn't being used. Easy enough if you really want to.
There was a pub near us in Bedfordshire that someone tried to change the use of. Nightmare.
It was in a tiny little village that already had another pub, but a load of supposed customers (mostly from another village) raised a hell of a fuss about it.
Of course if they'd been spending enough cash in there in the first place the pub wouldn't have closed...

In the end the poor sod who'd bought it gave in as the council wouldn't let them change the use. It's now a curry house with a bar.
that would be the drovers in steppingley then ?

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

205 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Magog said:
stainless_steve said:
Change of use?
Easily solved...

Not that I'd ever be brave enough (or maybe foolish is more appropriate) to do it but what would actually happen if a pub was burnt down. Can you then build anything on the land (within reason) or would you still have to go through the 'change of use' process?

Simpo Two

91,328 posts

288 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Victor McDade said:
Not that I'd ever be brave enough (or maybe foolish is more appropriate) to do it but what would actually happen if a pub was burnt down. Can you then build anything on the land (within reason) or would you still have to go through the 'change of use' process?
I suspect it is the site and not the building that has the use.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

262 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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make an appointment with the planners and talk to them informally. they will usually give you a good idea as to what can be done, before you buy

Ali_D

1,115 posts

307 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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I understand that one of the problems after you have the change of use is that as its now a 'new' dwelling it needs to conform to all the latest building regs which especially around the insulation can be quite expensive in an older property.

This is what I was told when I was looking at a pub to convert, but I can't remember who by so don't know whether in anyway correct or not!

CO2000

3,177 posts

232 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Martin Keene said:
There probably isn't.

A friend of my parents bought an old pub and converted it to a nice house, and to top it off, built a pair of semis on the car park.
We looked at doing this a few years ago (even with converting the car park to housing) but I was worried about a revolt etc by the locals (only pub in the village)