*cough*vauxhall*cough* Bertone Coupe- yay or nay?
*cough*vauxhall*cough* Bertone Coupe- yay or nay?
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Louisa911

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649 posts

219 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Looking at possibilities for my next car purchase, currently doing without as I've just got back from Uni, working part time at my old job until I find somewhere local full time, get some money behind me to get a car again (I hate life without one frown )

Budget was originally going to be £1500 and around £600 for insurance (being 21 is not a lot...)

I've owned a Focus before so had persuaded myself to go down this route again as my previous one was solid, reliable and had enough grunt, possibly looking out for a 2.0 ESP as discussed in my last thread. But today I saw a lovely looking Astra Coupe (sorry, a Vauxhall I know.... the shame) in black, 2.2l engine, half leather half alancantra seats, all the usual toys, very clean with 100k on the clock, Y-reg, near full history for £1600.

This lead to an insurance quote of £900, but looked at the 1.8l version and these dropped to £600, so not bad really. Scoured ebay and autotrader just now- there's some very tidy ones with 1 owner from new, 52 plate, 60k miles for example, going for as low as £2300 which seems a lot of car for the cash. Possibly worth the extra month or two of saving?

The question is... yes or no? I know its a Vauxhall, and yes from previous driving experience they seem to be quite jellyish in the gears and pretty ropey to drive, but wondered if the Coupe is any different? The 2.0l turbo is unfortunately a no no, I won't even bother trying with insurance even though I've heard its the best engine of the bunch. Might even consider the convertible version as I'm a girl and can get away (just) with admitting ownership of such a thing.

Just wondered if you thought looking at these could be a good idea, and what to look out for in general.

Thanks a lot

Swoxy

2,842 posts

239 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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I think the coupe and slightly less so, the convertible, look lovely. I presume they share nearly all mechanical parts with lesser models, too? Check out the review on Parker's?

Deluded

4,968 posts

220 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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As above, I also think they look lovely. Much nicer than the hatch version.

Problem is that my one experience of owning a vauxhall, and other experiences of driving others vauxhalls have left a sour taste in my mouth which has put me off ever buying another.

Shropshiremike

24,468 posts

232 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Don't know much about these but if you do look at a 2.2 engine do some reading up about the cam chain etc beforehand. I think they had a habit of letting go on some models?

redvictor

3,152 posts

266 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Louisa911 said:
But today I saw a lovely looking Astra Coupe (sorry, a Vauxhall I know.... the shame)
Nothing to be ashamed of with the Vauxhall name... thumbup

y2blade

56,318 posts

244 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Deluded said:
As above, I also think they look lovely. Much nicer than the hatch version.

Problem is that my one experience of owning a vauxhall, and other experiences of driving others vauxhalls have left a sour taste in my mouth which has put me off ever buying another.
+1
smile yes they look great, we had a very close look at them at the motorshow the year they came out smile

I guess there are good and bad with everything
frown I'll never buy a Vauxhall, myself and people I know have had nothing but trouble with them

Ry_B

2,256 posts

230 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Vauxhall is better than Ford IMO.

balders118

5,940 posts

197 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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y2blade said:
Deluded said:
As above, I also think they look lovely. Much nicer than the hatch version.

Problem is that my one experience of owning a vauxhall, and other experiences of driving others vauxhalls have left a sour taste in my mouth which has put me off ever buying another.
+1
smile yes they look great, we had a very close look at them at the motorshow the year they came out smile

I guess there are good and bad with everything
frown I'll never buy a Vauxhall, myself and people I know have had nothing but trouble with them
Just to add a flipside..

My OH had a corsa (first form) with the tiny 1.0, 3 cylinder engine. She had it four years, it had covered 110,000 miles and only ever broke down once (she was cruising at an indicated 95, she did this a lot - the cars top speed - and it burst an oil line or something). The car was never serviced properly, no money spent on it, never any big MOT issues and it was still going fine when she got rid for a 03 clio - which has been nothing but trouble!

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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The 1.8 is (obviously) less powerful than the 2.2, but weirdly it's not a lot more economical. The 1.8 is not one of Vauxhalls best engines as it's pretty thirsty for the power, so if you're able to afford a 2.2 then I'd recommend that.
Shropshiremike said:
Don't know much about these but if you do look at a 2.2 engine do some reading up about the cam chain etc beforehand. I think they had a habit of letting go on some models?
The issue with the older 2.2's was that there is an oil jet which squirts oil on the cam chain. (Chain not belt). This was supposed to keep it lubricated. However on the early cars this wasn't big enough for the job, and so there was a recall to fit a larger nozzle. This larger nozzle was fitted as standard to the later cars. Just check it's been done or indeed came from the factory with the later nozzle. If it has then you have no worries.

FWIW I think the Astra Coupé is the best looking car in the bracket you're looking at.

LuS1fer

43,491 posts

274 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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I'm no fan of these coupes spun off from hatches as all they are is 2 door hatches without much style at all. I would rather a bespokecoupe like a Celica but understand the insurance side. We had an Astra 1.4 LX and it was a good little car and quite well specced.

y2blade

56,318 posts

244 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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balders118 said:
y2blade said:
Deluded said:
As above, I also think they look lovely. Much nicer than the hatch version.

Problem is that my one experience of owning a vauxhall, and other experiences of driving others vauxhalls have left a sour taste in my mouth which has put me off ever buying another.
+1
smile yes they look great, we had a very close look at them at the motorshow the year they came out smile

I guess there are good and bad with everything
frown I'll never buy a Vauxhall, myself and people I know have had nothing but trouble with them
Just to add a flipside..

My OH had a corsa (first form) with the tiny 1.0, 3 cylinder engine. She had it four years, it had covered 110,000 miles and only ever broke down once (she was cruising at an indicated 95, she did this a lot - the cars top speed - and it burst an oil line or something). The car was never serviced properly, no money spent on it, never any big MOT issues and it was still going fine when she got rid for a 03 clio - which has been nothing but trouble!
our old accounts lady had a mk1 corsa for years, that was very reliable too


y2blade

56,318 posts

244 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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The Crack Fox said:
Not a bad car, but for the money I'd be looking at a Puma with fewer miles in better shape, the Puma is much more fun to drive.
good call yes

clonmult

10,529 posts

238 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Ry_B said:
Vauxhall is better than Ford IMO.
Not the sort of comment you see that often .....

rallycross

13,749 posts

266 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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I had a 2.2 model, was nice looking car and nice inside but let down by being a typical astra driving experience. It felt no different to a regular Astra, so you get wallowy suspension and steering with no feedback. If you like driving a Focus you will be disappointed driving one of these.

Made up for by its good looks and it was very good on fuel it would average nearly 40 mpg on the motorway.

Louisa911

Original Poster:

649 posts

219 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Just done a quote on a 140 Celica, wanted one for a long time but unfortunately as expected came back at £1070... so not as drastic as I initially thought but still considering the cars are rarely under the £2.5k range at the moment, might be pushing the budget a bit too much.

Think I might go for the Astra Coupe unless something else takes my fancy by the time it comes to buying. Seen some lovely low mileage ones up for way under 2k at local garages!

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

237 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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y2blade said:
The Crack Fox said:
Not a bad car, but for the money I'd be looking at a Puma with fewer miles in better shape, the Puma is much more fun to drive.
good call yes
Yeah I agree, I would have a 1.7i puma over them.

cheadle hulme

2,502 posts

211 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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I saw a convertible one in red at Blackpool illuminations last weekend. Had some sort of subtle bodykit on with darkened headlights?
Looked good I have to say and I'm not normally a fan of that kind of thing.

Louisa911

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649 posts

219 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Presumably the Irmscher kit or something regarding the bodykit? Not sure about the headlights but they do look good, seen a few very standard looking ones for sale with these fitted.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Louisa911 said:
Presumably the Irmscher kit or something regarding the bodykit? Not sure about the headlights but they do look good, seen a few very standard looking ones for sale with these fitted.
I think the later SRi/GSi hatches, and all the Coupe's had darkened headlights and tail lights as standard.

The Irmscher kit is nice imo - makes it look good but without being an OTT barry boys type of thing.

ManOpener

12,467 posts

198 months

Monday 11th October 2010
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Louisa911 said:
Presumably the Irmscher kit or something regarding the bodykit? Not sure about the headlights but they do look good, seen a few very standard looking ones for sale with these fitted.
I personally think all of the Irmscher stuff is gash. Bloody horrible, the last thing anyone needs is a factory-chav Corsa with the exhausts from a Vectra V6 slung on the bottom.