gt2 test drive
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just been on a test drive in a gt2. clearly this was an amazing experience, and driving my c4s home was an unusually dull experience of lack lustre performance and little feedback from the road.
it was also quite frightening as this car has some serious power that can kill its owner or other roadusers if you - even for a second - don't concentrate. that is at least how how saw it. first time i accelerated away hard was errr... quite remarkable. this car is for seriously hairy chested men.
i've had some very kind responses from people on this forum who own gt2's, but am wondering if there are any other people out there who have one or who driven something equally powerfull as to what their advice might be about owning one. clearly i want it, but i want to make an informed decision with my head, not an emotional knee jerk. the price of the car is good, the spec is ok.
any thoughts? - ps a turbo is not an option. this is leagues ahead (sorry to offend turbo owners)
my c4s is complete pants.
it was also quite frightening as this car has some serious power that can kill its owner or other roadusers if you - even for a second - don't concentrate. that is at least how how saw it. first time i accelerated away hard was errr... quite remarkable. this car is for seriously hairy chested men.
i've had some very kind responses from people on this forum who own gt2's, but am wondering if there are any other people out there who have one or who driven something equally powerfull as to what their advice might be about owning one. clearly i want it, but i want to make an informed decision with my head, not an emotional knee jerk. the price of the car is good, the spec is ok.
any thoughts? - ps a turbo is not an option. this is leagues ahead (sorry to offend turbo owners)
my c4s is complete pants.
I'm completely unqualified to comment, having driven neither 996TT or GT2, but have to admit to struggling to understand how a GT2 can have any advantage over an X50 996 on the road (in fact most of the time I think it would be at a distinct disadvantage in terms of getting A to B quickly), while if track work is your thing surely a GT3 is a much more focussed tool?
On a smaller scale my 930 turbo (currently for sale on PH classifieds by the way!) suffered in this way - driving home from work down country B-roads on a dark wet autumn night, a well driven Nissan Micra could leave me for dead!
Chris
On a smaller scale my 930 turbo (currently for sale on PH classifieds by the way!) suffered in this way - driving home from work down country B-roads on a dark wet autumn night, a well driven Nissan Micra could leave me for dead!
Chris
There was an article in GT Purely Porsche recently comparing the GT2, GT3 and 996 TT and they came to the same conclusion as Chris ie the 996 TT was the best road car, the GT3 was the trackday king and the GT2 was absurdly rapid in a straightline but something of a handful.
There appears to be more lag with the GT2 than the 996 TT with the power cutting in violently in the style of 1980's 911 (930 Turbo's). I prefer a high reving normally aspirated motor with a glorious sountrack hence my decision to buy a GT3.
The GT2 is a fantastic bit of kit but I'd replace the ceramic brakes with standard items as these appear to be an expensive bill waiting to happen.
Geoff
There appears to be more lag with the GT2 than the 996 TT with the power cutting in violently in the style of 1980's 911 (930 Turbo's). I prefer a high reving normally aspirated motor with a glorious sountrack hence my decision to buy a GT3.
The GT2 is a fantastic bit of kit but I'd replace the ceramic brakes with standard items as these appear to be an expensive bill waiting to happen.
Geoff
Rob, the way you were comparing your C4S to the GT2, sounds like you are looking for a more soulful drive, in which case try the GT3 also. Like the GT2 it needs more concentration to drive but it is hugely communicative and rewarding (and the engine note is awesome).
I know what you mean about doing a double take with the GT2. The thing that put me personally off a GT2 was that "beast" nature: been there, done that with the Cerbera which to be honest whilst it was a blast on the right day / road, could be equally tiresome on a long journey back from somewhere. Net result, I never did feel like I wanted to get the most out of it. Had loads more fun in my Griffith.
GT2 is a fantastic sexy piece of kit though.
I know what you mean about doing a double take with the GT2. The thing that put me personally off a GT2 was that "beast" nature: been there, done that with the Cerbera which to be honest whilst it was a blast on the right day / road, could be equally tiresome on a long journey back from somewhere. Net result, I never did feel like I wanted to get the most out of it. Had loads more fun in my Griffith.
GT2 is a fantastic sexy piece of kit though.
porschegeoff said:
the GT2 was absurdly rapid in a straightline but something of a handful.
'absurdly' is an understatement. and it is in fact that exact point which leads me not to get one. other than accelerating in a striaght line from 40 to over 130 is 4/10ths of a nanosecond, i was too afraid to do much else with it. and there's only so many times i can do that before getting pc plodded or getting bored. clearly track days etc would come into play but realistically i wouldn't go on that many to justify the purchase. i caned my c4s this morning to work, and it seems good enough. if i had the money i would keep the c4s, buy a house with a triple garage and get the gt2 as my play thing 3rd car. sadly i am lacking in funds currently for such frivolity. maybe one day.
Rob, as a matter of interest was the GT2 you were considering the one that Sean Lockyear have at the moment? I keep thinking about a GT2..........TT is away at the moment having a different exhaust having had the stage one chip so hopefully it will return making a better noise and being faster still!!
ps the reason the GT2 (and an x50 for that matter) appear to have more lag than the standard TT is that the turbos internal turbines are larger and therefore have more inertia - ie it takes them longer to spin up - although it shouldn't be too noticable!
ps the reason the GT2 (and an x50 for that matter) appear to have more lag than the standard TT is that the turbos internal turbines are larger and therefore have more inertia - ie it takes them longer to spin up - although it shouldn't be too noticable!
You can now spec. the Turbo with 20mm lowered suspension which is pretty much the same set up as the GT2. An X-50 will leave a GT2 for dead on wet twisties (i.e Uk roads) & if you want a more "focused drive" spec the 20mm lowered set up & loose a few fillings.
450 + bhp & sudden tyre renching Turbo torque don't create an easily adjustable rear drive car.
To my mind if want ballistic acceleration & handling to match, then a 4WD Turbo is you boy. On the other hand if you want a raw more focused track car get a GT3. Fabulous as the GT2 is, in my opinion it falls between two camps, but it does prove the owners have big balls..respect !
450 + bhp & sudden tyre renching Turbo torque don't create an easily adjustable rear drive car.
To my mind if want ballistic acceleration & handling to match, then a 4WD Turbo is you boy. On the other hand if you want a raw more focused track car get a GT3. Fabulous as the GT2 is, in my opinion it falls between two camps, but it does prove the owners have big balls..respect !
charlie, the one i saw was at afn in west london. this is on a sale or return basis as i understand the current owner doesn't use it much.
re grant's comments - i havne't driven a gt3 so can't comment. the turbo idea is a good one, but there is something of the lion tamer in owning a gt2 - being able to control what can be the uncontrolable is partly what i think owning a gt2 is all about. it's a mans mans car, and i'm not afraid to admit i ain't man enough. but then at least i'll be alive. i'm going to go on some driver training courses and build up confidence in my own ability before taking the plunge.
re grant's comments - i havne't driven a gt3 so can't comment. the turbo idea is a good one, but there is something of the lion tamer in owning a gt2 - being able to control what can be the uncontrolable is partly what i think owning a gt2 is all about. it's a mans mans car, and i'm not afraid to admit i ain't man enough. but then at least i'll be alive. i'm going to go on some driver training courses and build up confidence in my own ability before taking the plunge.
Rob,
Go and do some courses with Don Palmer, he's great for gaining all round car control and the confidence that goes with on the limit handling - especially for cars like the GT2, I spent a bit of time with him in my 360!
ps the GT2 that Lockyear has for sale is £78K which is quite a saving on the AFN one!
Go and do some courses with Don Palmer, he's great for gaining all round car control and the confidence that goes with on the limit handling - especially for cars like the GT2, I spent a bit of time with him in my 360!
ps the GT2 that Lockyear has for sale is £78K which is quite a saving on the AFN one!
911nutter said:
err... very interesting. i've not heard of sean lockyear, so don't know if it's a dealer or an individual on this forum. can you let me know how to contact them / him?
try www.seanlockyear.co.uk you muppet.
sold 2 minutes ago. maybe i do want one after all. maybe i am man enough to tame this beast. oh dear. i'm confused. but what a nice dilemma to have
911nutter said:
the GT2 was absurdly rapid in a straightline but something of a handful.
clearly track days etc would come into play but realistically i wouldn't go on that many to justify the purchase. i caned my c4s this morning to work, and it seems good enough. if i had the money i would keep the c4s, buy a house with a triple garage and get the gt2 as my play thing 3rd car. sadly i am lacking in funds currently for such frivolity. maybe one day.
have you thought keep the c4s extend the house and get a Superlight R 400 or 500 as the play thing/track. (which incidentially both have more BHP/ton then the GT2 !) its also alot cheaper.
If you are like me, you will need a sensible fastish car, (wife,camping lugging stuff - Saab)a fast car (911)and a fing fast car/track (7 SuperLightR/ ultima ).
Depends on how much driving in each you will do and what you can put up with daily use/weekend use/track use. From what you say about the GT2 wow what a car - everyday use? weekend? track?
Your C4s is good as the fast everyday car and it sounds like you have a 'sensible' load lugger but what use would you use the GT2 for ? is it too raw for everyday use ie a replacement for the C4s? or ok for just weekend use or too expensive for track use?
Its a good delemma you have, but GT2's are expensive and you have a lot of choices from alternatives but the key is what you want from the/a car.
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