Crashed the pride and joy - Insurance question
Crashed the pride and joy - Insurance question
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kieranjholland

Original Poster:

3,572 posts

194 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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I recently used someones bumper to emergency stop... not advisable.

Minor bump and not much damage done to his car however mine was written off (economical write off) by my insurance company, Admiral.

This was my first bump and I'm fully comp in a car worth ~£2,500. I'd prefer to use this as an opportunity to move onto a mway cruiser worth £3,000 - £4,000 but don't worry, this isn't a what-car question*, I'm seeking advise on next steps:

It may be worth me not claiming for my damage, repairing myself for about £400 - £500(scrap bumber, bonnet and lamp plus some panel beating around the the headlamp casing) and keeping the car but I want to hear their offer before I do that and, as above, I'm keen to use this opportunity to move on.

To claim they want me to send in all my details (service history, V5, MOT, keys and so on) into them before we negotiate value of car... this does not seem like a wise move - to essentially hand over my car prior to being told what I'll be given for it.

Has anyone had any experience of this?





what-car question* = Mondeo/Superb/Passatt TD(C)I
getmecoat

TDutchy

661 posts

219 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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kieranjholland said:
I recently used someones bumper to emergency stop... not advisable.

Minor bump and not much damage done to his car however mine was written off (economical write off) by my insurance company, Admiral.

This was my first bump and I'm fully comp in a car worth ~£2,500. I'd prefer to use this as an opportunity to move onto a mway cruiser worth £3,000 - £4,000 but don't worry, this isn't a what-car question*, I'm seeking advise on next steps:

It may be worth me not claiming for my damage, repairing myself for about £400 - £500(scrap bumber, bonnet and lamp plus some panel beating around the the headlamp casing) and keeping the car but I want to hear their offer before I do that and, as above, I'm keen to use this opportunity to move on.

To claim they want me to send in all my details (service history, V5, MOT, keys and so on) into them before we negotiate value of car... this does not seem like a wise move - to essentially hand over my car prior to being told what I'll be given for it.

Has anyone had any experience of this?





what-car question* = Mondeo/Superb/Passatt TD(C)I
getmecoat
200hp vs 130hp.

You know the score.

morgrp

4,128 posts

222 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Keep the T4 - way better than a Passat - A friend of mine got rid of his T5 and got a 55 plate Passat TDI 140bhp - big mistake according to him

kieranjholland

Original Poster:

3,572 posts

194 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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my thread got hijacked!

Anyone have experience of insurance companies requesting all the documents and keys for a written off car before agreeing to talk through the value of the car??

Seems unwise to me to pass this information across prior to a valutation being agreed

LuS1fer

43,283 posts

269 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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Is he claiming from you and is there an "injury claim" attached. If so, be wary of your next insurance premium before you go buying high insurance group cars.

p4cks

7,350 posts

223 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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I had a claim with Admiral and they lost my service record and MOT's etc. No helpful for anyone really.

Do you want to make a claim? If not, don't send anything and fix it yourself.

chris1roll

1,893 posts

268 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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kieranjholland said:
my thread got hijacked!

Anyone have experience of insurance companies requesting all the documents and keys for a written off car before agreeing to talk through the value of the car??

Seems unwise to me to pass this information across prior to a valuation being agreed
I wouldn't let them have all that.
It is not their car (nor is it "written off") until they have paid for it. It's yours.


ETA - my father wouldn't let the insurance co take his car away until he had the money, and there was no doubt about that being irrepairable.


Edited by chris1roll on Tuesday 12th October 21:54

8400rpm

1,777 posts

191 months

Tuesday 12th October 2010
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chris1roll said:
kieranjholland said:
my thread got hijacked!

Anyone have experience of insurance companies requesting all the documents and keys for a written off car before agreeing to talk through the value of the car??

Seems unwise to me to pass this information across prior to a valuation being agreed
I wouldn't let them have all that.
It is not their car (nor is it "written off") until they have paid for it. It's yours.
This.

As soon as they have possession of your car, they'll do what they want. Hence if you ever have an accident and it's immobilised and needs recovering, always have it sent to your house and not the local repair shop.

I have known of people that owned a nice car with an expensive plate on it. Gets recovered to garage, and the insurance company transferred the plate off and sold it, then wrote the car off and paid out a crap amount. Owner loses plate and insurance company makes money on it.

My mum used to work for an insurance broker, consequently I wouldn't trust an insurance company as far as I could throw their entire staff, right after a big meal and needing a dump.

kieranjholland

Original Poster:

3,572 posts

194 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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chris1roll said:
I wouldn't let them have all that.
It is not their car (nor is it "written off") until they have paid for it. It's yours.


ETA - my father wouldn't let the insurance co take his car away until he had the money, and there was no doubt about that being irrepairable.
Thx Chris, I'm sure this is the right thing to do, will stick to my guns shoot

Noger

7,117 posts

273 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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chris1roll said:
I wouldn't let them have all that.
It is not their car (nor is it "written off") until they have paid for it. It's yours.
Actually, it is "written off" before they settle. Depending on the category, there will already be a marker on the DVLA systems and MIAFTR to this effect. So you would have a problem trying to sell it, as it will flag to the police as soon as you try to get a new V5. Anti-ringing and all that.

From their point of view, they don't want to send you the cheque and then for your car to magically "disappear" as soon as you have cashed it.

kieranjholland

Original Poster:

3,572 posts

194 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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I just spoke to them again and resolved my concerns, I believe they chance their arm initially however when pushed will discuss further with limited information that you can pass over the phone!

Not particularly interested in selling it - either want the cheque and write it off of as a last resort I'd repair myself and not make take my claim further.

Thanks all

TDutchy - you're right, I do know the score and I'm pretty pissed I'm going giving up my 200hp Volvo for a gloryfied tug boat on wheels... am I still allowed on pistonheads?!

jay140285

626 posts

208 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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When I wrote my car off 4weeks after I was 17 and passing my test, a few years ago now.

I had the car recovered home, and handed nothing over until I had an agreed valuation and my private plate taken off.

I also sent then copies of cars for sale to get a better value of my car.

S1MMA

2,449 posts

243 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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kieranjholland said:
am I still allowed on pistonheads?!
No. Hope you had fun though. Close the door on your way out.


smile I'm sure it won't be as bad as all that, which one do you currently prefer? The VW oil burners remap very well! plenty of soot etc... but it's all good!

catman

2,504 posts

199 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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When my car was written off, I let them have the service history, plus copies of adverts for similar cars.

They then sent a letter informing me that they would be collecting the car for "safe-keeping." I told them that they would only get the car when they had paid me for it.

They seemed genuinely surprised at this, but I stuck to my guns, and after three low offers and an official complaint, I got what I wanted. Because of their stupidity, they also got a bill of almost £6000 for a hire car!

Tim

paoloh

8,617 posts

228 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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p4cks said:
I had a claim with Admiral and they lost my service record and MOT's etc. No helpful for anyone really.

Do you want to make a claim? If not, don't send anything and fix it yourself.
The other party will claim anyway.

Just photocopy all docs and send them off.

frosted

3,549 posts

201 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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How can a volvo be better than a passat ? I mean, really you lot for real? ( btw i have a passat and have driven a few volvos ) I just cant see the difference between the two , actually the volvo showed its age much quicker than the passat

I stand to be edumacated

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

216 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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frosted said:
How can a volvo be better than a passat ? I mean, really you lot for real? ( btw i have a passat and have driven a few volvos ) I just cant see the difference between the two , actually the volvo showed its age much quicker than the passat

I stand to be edumacated
Id say there equal, assuming age, mileage etc is the same

Speaking from the point of going from a 2004 S40 to a 1999 Audi A4 (basically a Passat)

kieranjholland

Original Poster:

3,572 posts

194 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Just bought an S60 D5 SE 2003 - 53 plate (euro III, 163 bhp), low mileage example so as long as I learn from my mistake I will get a lot of time with this motor.

I would have died of boredom in a Passat/Mondeo based on my driving preferences *trying not to offend anyone*

I'm picking it up on Saturday and have a long drive home planned bounce