Can anyone get around my insurance/tax problem?
Can anyone get around my insurance/tax problem?
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Mellow Matt

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1,343 posts

236 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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I'm looking at a car for sale in Wales on Saturday, but it's currently on SORN and without insurance. If the car's as advertised I'm pretty sure I'll be buying it. However, my current insurance only allows me to drive other cars if they're insured already, and this car isn't.

This all means that I'd have to buy it, then insure it in my name, then tax it myself. This wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for the fact that I'm going to see it on a Saturday, and so the Post office won't be open to tax it...

Can anyone think of a way around this, other than driving to Wales (from London) twice!

TIA smile

GKP

15,099 posts

270 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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Post Offices are usually open until 1pm on Saturdays, the larger branches until around 4pm.

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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Pickup/flat bed

Mellow Matt

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236 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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GKP said:
Post Offices are usually open until 1pm on Saturdays, the larger branches until around 4pm.
Oh really? That might make it possible then...

doogz said:
Even if the post office is open, how do you propose to buy the car, phone your insurance company to insure it, then arrive at a post office with your insurance documents, will will more than likely not even have been printed off yet?
I'm going to insure with Adrian Flux, who email the docs to you. Hopefully fairly swiftly...

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

195 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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Could you ask the seller to tax it for you?
Obviously this means committing to buy the car before you see it.

Mellow Matt

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Wednesday 13th October 2010
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mnkiboy said:
Could you ask the seller to tax it for you?
Obviously this means committing to buy the car before you see it.
I can't do that as he's not insured frown

falkster

4,258 posts

232 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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Shiply!!! Go see it but be patient and get shiplys to pick it up. Tax and insure it another day!!
Only other way is to insure it today. Go look at it Saturday and tax it from his pc. Make sure he's ok with posting tax disc onto you as it will go to him!!!
Genius!

Accelerated

973 posts

256 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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Try www.dayinsure.com and get a one day insurance policy, then you can print of the docs and tax it

Mellow Matt

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Wednesday 13th October 2010
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OK guys, I just rang Adrian Flux, they said it'd say no more than 2 hours for the policy to be emailed to me after taking it out. So if I saw the car early afternoon, I could insure it, wait an hour or so for the docs, print and then travel to a nearby post office, which apparently is open until 5:30pm on Saturdays...

Anyone see a flaw with this plan...?

OllieC

3,816 posts

243 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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musclecarmad said:
you cant tax a car that's day insured

you just have to drive it untaxed

a lot of people have the same prob when buying a car on a sunday - it's a risk you have to take sadly.
I have taxed a car on a day insurance scheme, at the Malmesbury post office.

I think its at the discretion of the post office concerned ?

dnb

3,330 posts

271 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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Book it in for an MOT late on Saturday at your local garage. Then you only need insurance.

Obviously you have to show up for said test.

Edited by dnb on Wednesday 13th October 12:15

Mellow Matt

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Wednesday 13th October 2010
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dnb said:
Book it in for an MOT late on Saturday at your local garage. Then you only need insurance.

Obviously you have to show up for said test.
Hahah like the idea, I was talking about doing this the other day, don't know why I didn't think of that! It'd cost me the extra £40 though.

Can anyone think why this wouldn't work though:

Mellow Matt said:
OK guys, I just rang Adrian Flux, they said it'd say no more than 2 hours for the policy to be emailed to me after taking it out. So if I saw the car early afternoon, I could insure it, wait an hour or so for the docs, print and then travel to a nearby post office, which apparently is open until 5:30pm on Saturdays...

Anyone see a flaw with this plan...?
It seems like the least messy way of doing it.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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+1 on the book it in for an MOT.

p4cks

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228 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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Mellow Matt said:
OK guys, I just rang Adrian Flux, they said it'd say no more than 2 hours for the policy to be emailed to me after taking it out. So if I saw the car early afternoon, I could insure it, wait an hour or so for the docs, print and then travel to a nearby post office, which apparently is open until 5:30pm on Saturdays...

Anyone see a flaw with this plan...?
Erm I'm fairly sure that the Post Office need to see the original Certificate of Insurance and will not accept anything but the original, that includes an emailed PDF document.

dave_s13

14,026 posts

298 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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I would day insure it prior to viewing. Then risk driving to a post office and getting it Taxed.

If the PO won't tax it then I would just drive it home and take a chance.

The insurance is the "important" bit, just make sure you have that sorted.

I have driven untaxed cars back from purchasing them a few times and never got caught. Just take it steady.

marcosgt

11,498 posts

205 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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Can't you buy RFL online or is that only if you have a renewal notice?

M.

Edited by marcosgt on Wednesday 13th October 13:17

AndrewW-G

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246 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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GKP said:
Post Offices are usually open until 1pm on Saturdays, the larger branches until around 4pm.
And as I discovered recently, some of the Post Office branches located in other businesses are open on a Sunday (the one inside ASDA in Skelmersdale!)

As for the "insurance problem" simply call your insurers and ask if you could arrange cover to drive the car home.

Mellow Matt

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236 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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OK turns out the post office website was lying, and actually the post office near the car is closed on Sat afternoon. However, another nearby one is open until 4pm.

Hopefully I can get the docs before 4 pm and get to the post office and tax it. The chap selling the car checked that the post office would accept printed docs and they said yes to that, so that's one less thing to worry about.

If I can't get the docs by 4pm, then I can maybe tax online (but I'm pretty sure the database takes days to update, so I probably wouldn't be able to do that).

Failing that I can ring around a load of MOT places near me and book a test. I doubt I'd actually be able to get back to London in time and so I'd miss the test, but I doubt that would matter too much...

Or failing that, I can just wing it. Am I right in thinking that the car could be confiscated if I did that though?


Accelerated

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256 months

Wednesday 13th October 2010
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p4cks said:
Mellow Matt said:
OK guys, I just rang Adrian Flux, they said it'd say no more than 2 hours for the policy to be emailed to me after taking it out. So if I saw the car early afternoon, I could insure it, wait an hour or so for the docs, print and then travel to a nearby post office, which apparently is open until 5:30pm on Saturdays...

Anyone see a flaw with this plan...?
Erm I'm fairly sure that the Post Office need to see the original Certificate of Insurance and will not accept anything but the original, that includes an emailed PDF document.
That rule was changed a few months back, also to tax a car the insurance need only be valid on the day you are taxing it.

Mellow Matt

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Wednesday 13th October 2010
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So I just rang 3 different police constabularies about driving to a pre-booked MOT without tax and all of them began by saying that you're not allowed to rolleyes I managed to convince 1 constabulary that it WAS allowed, but they then kept saying I "shouldn't" drive to an MOT station that isn't local, when I pressed whether it was legal or not they couldn't answer rolleyes

They couldn't decide what the penalty would be either. So not really very helpful...