Septic tank help URGENT please...
Septic tank help URGENT please...
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lambysdad

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939 posts

262 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Hi all,

Spoke to the missus yesterday (i'm away at the moment), and she said the bloke who came to empty the septic tank reckoned it was full because the pump is not working.
I will get home today and have a look but have no idea where the switch for the pump is?
Also, the missus asked the bloke for some advice but said he didn't know anythng about it?? So if the people who empty the tanks don't know how to fix them, then who does?

Please help, i'm away to the states at the weekend so really need this sorting.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

271 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Ring Klargester 01296-633000, ask for technical, see what they suggest.

lambysdad

Original Poster:

939 posts

262 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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mrmaggit said:
Ring Klargester 01296-633000, ask for technical, see what they suggest.
Thanks, i'll give them a call when i get home.
Although i'm not sure of the make which i have, will they still give advice if it's not one of theirs?

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

271 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Play dumb and say as they're the best ones you assume it's one of theirs! wink

Flattery gets you everywhere. wink

Edited by mrmaggit on Thursday 14th October 10:17

sparkypups

271 posts

228 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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or ring Kee Service on 01296 634500

These guys have been looking after septic tanks since the early days.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

232 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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With either your wife can pull the whole confused woman thing that works and generally gets free advice and possibly even a bit of free labour if there is someone local. If you try it they will say ring a plumber.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

227 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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What pump????

Its a septic tank and i've never seen one with a pump

The poo just flows into it gets eaten by the jobbie eaters and cleanish water comes out the other end.

They are meant to be full of water with a layer of sludge and st at the bottom

b2hbm

1,301 posts

245 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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ditto ^^^^

Ours certainly hasn't got a pump, works just like he said. Every now and then the pipe into it gets sludged up (only a very slight gradient/long run) and it needs rodding out, but other than that it sort of looks after itself.

jesta1865

3,453 posts

232 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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lambysdad said:
Also, the missus asked the bloke for some advice but said he didn't know anythng about it?? So if the people who empty the tanks don't know how to fix them, then who does?
i would hazard a guess and say from some of the replies that he has proved he doesn't know anything about them.

i have had several mates with them and none of them have ever had pumps its all gravity to get it in, and nature does the rest.

Davel

8,982 posts

281 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Never seen a septic tank with a pump.

Local farmer empties ours for £60 a time.

Maybe the guy's full of more st than your tank!

Kermit power

29,622 posts

236 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Davel said:
Never seen a septic tank with a pump.

Local farmer empties ours for £60 a time.

Maybe the guy's full of more st than your tank!
Considering he's getting free fertiliser, do you pay him, or does he pay you?

renmure

4,810 posts

247 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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No pump here either.

Davel

8,982 posts

281 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Kermit power said:
Davel said:
Never seen a septic tank with a pump.

Local farmer empties ours for £60 a time.

Maybe the guy's full of more st than your tank!
Considering he's getting free fertiliser, do you pay him, or does he pay you?
We're so full of the stuff here that we pay him!

FlossyThePig

4,138 posts

266 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Septic tanks are so modern. We have a cesspit that is over 100 years old. We get the honey wagon out to empty it every now and then. It’s certainly a lot cheaper than sewerage on the water rates.

Simpo Two

91,376 posts

288 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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lambysdad said:
Spoke to the missus yesterday (i'm away at the moment), and she said the bloke who came to empty the septic tank reckoned it was full because the pump is not working.
Was it supposed to be full for some other reason?

Gaspode

4,167 posts

219 months

Thursday 14th October 2010
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Like others have said, a septic tank should be full at all times. If it's an old design it has two tanks, separated by a wall which doesn't come right to the top. The poo goes in one half and sinks to the bottom, where it decomposes. The liquid cascades over the top for secondary settling. On a healthy septic tank there should be a nice crust over the whole lot, and it shouldn't smell bad.

The most important thing with a septic tank is to make sure you don't use nasty bleachy type chemicals down your toilet. If you do, the chemicals will kill all the bugs, the decomposition cycle won't work, it will fill up with horrible muck and stink to high heaven.

mrsxllifts

2,501 posts

222 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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As others have said, no pump in our cess pit although we did have to put in a soakaway with some of those crate things as we live near the sea and can have trouble with the water level. As far as I know water should be at a constant level with the solids underneath being eaten, although my mum has a habit of using bleach etc in the toilets so we have to encouage the bugs with a pot of natural yoghurt!

lambysdad

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939 posts

262 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Ok, got home last night so managed to have a look through the paperwork.
It's a Titan Biotec sewerage treatment plant, with a Ebara submersible Electropump.
I've been out there this morning and lifted the inspection hatches to have a look. Looks like the pump is in the main tank and is operated by a float on/off system. i.e. float rises with level until it reaches the on position and the pump kicks in, pumps out until level goes down and float reaches the off position. Seems a simple enough design.
Found the breaker switch in the garage, flicked it off and on (as you do), haven't noticed any change.
Managed to find a local guy who installs/maintains sewerage systems, he's gonna pop round tomorrow for a look.
If it turns out i need a new pump, any ideas on how much i'm looking at with installation/commissioning?

Thanks for all the reply's, and as someone mentioned, I know bugger all about this smile

Davel

8,982 posts

281 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Surely you can buy a submersible pump from B&Q etc.

If you have a pump, then it will only be to move the liquid from the chamber and these pumps should be easy to replace.

The 'er' solids stay there until there is sufficient to pump out.

If it is full of solids, then get it pumped out anyway. If full of liquid, then maybe pump that out first before getting the solids pumped out.

However, if it's done cheaply by a local farmer, then maybe get the whole thing emptied by him so that you can have a good look.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

227 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Never seen a septic tank with a pump

Anyway pull the pump out and i bet it has been killed by a little white mouse