Could/Should traffic lights become a thing of the past?
Could/Should traffic lights become a thing of the past?
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NoNeed

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15,137 posts

229 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Sorry if a repost, but I have just come accross an experiment.

http://www.wimp.com/trafficlights/


Remarkable, Common sense.

Hughesie

12,790 posts

311 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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I do think that like in the US, you should be able to turn left at a red light in the UK (obviously right in the USA) if the traffic is clear.

NoNeed

Original Poster:

15,137 posts

229 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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There are quite a few sets of lights I would like switched off, but I do like that turning left thing.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

233 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Can't see it becoming common place as it removes control from council officals

matthewg

1,396 posts

194 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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System needs re-vamped. Simple's...

wildoliver

9,302 posts

245 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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I've seen a few junctions recently that the lights have failed on.

Bearing in mind they were short term failures so people still get the panic mode on the result was freer flowing traffic, more courteous lane discipline and letting people go/thanking them.

Because your not stopping every 100 yards for red lights you don't feel as if your rushing so there was no sprinting away from being stopped to try to beat the next set of lights, result slower more relaxed driving. Less emissions, less potential for accidents, less stress, less noise, less fuel consumption.

Laurel Green

31,113 posts

261 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Less time, less pollution. Put responsibility back in the hands of the people!

carinaman

25,125 posts

201 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Given the number of drivers incapable of turning their heads, or their eyes to the right as they enter roundabouts I think traffic lights could be a good thing.

US traffic laws? They have weird stop lines. They have stop lines where it makes no sense and if an oncoming car stops at the stop line before you you're supposed to let it move off rather than just stopping at the stop line and then pulling away.

Mandatory periodic retests for all drivers, especially those people incapable or looking right as they enter roundabouts. What's the thought process there? If I look right and someone is coming I may have brake, change gear and then pull away again so it's better if I pretend I've not seen them and just keep going?

Edited by carinaman on Friday 15th October 11:19

hesnotthemessiah

2,121 posts

233 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Yes please!

nerfherder

250 posts

232 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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carinaman said:
US traffic laws? They have weird stop lines. They have stop lines where it makes no sense and if an oncoming car stops at the stop line before you you're supposed to let it move off rather than just stopping at the stop line and then pulling away.
I have American friends that complain about getting a ticket for not doing a "complete stop" at a stop sign. It seems to be a popular way for town councils to generate revenue.

Splats

625 posts

191 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Many American STOP signs are retarded and, even if you are in the middle of nowhere with nobody around, you must come to a complete stop before moving off again. As someone who traditionally hated slushboxes I was converted after a few days of driving in America. It would drive you bonkers having to shift gears and operate a clutch that often in such short distances.

LuS1fer

43,482 posts

274 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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The American 4-way stop signs are a nightmare and a bit like playing poker as to who will go first. I find many people treat red lights like they're not there anyway.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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I think traffic lights have their place, especially at peak times, however I do think we should have a universal cut off time in the evening especially where the lights just constnatly flash amber to show you can go if clear.

Marc W

3,782 posts

240 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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There's a junction on the way out of Bracknell as you head through Warfield that has gained some lights in the last year or so (Not sure of the exact timings). Before it used to be a nice free flowing junction with most people coming from Bracknell and turning left or coming from maidenhead turing right. Now there are big queses of cars in both directions every morning and afternoon and the whole thing is a pain to use.

I suspect it was done in the same of safety as there were several crashes on the crossroads. The only trouble is there have been at least two big smashes since the lights went in so they've failed there too!

edo

16,699 posts

294 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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matthewg said:
Simple's...
fk off!!

havoc

33,329 posts

264 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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LuS1fer said:
The American 4-way stop signs are a nightmare and a bit like playing poker as to who will go first. I find many people treat red lights like they're not there anyway.
When we were in Canada they worked really well - people genuinely watched and took their turn! But I agree that it can become a nightmare of stop-go-stop-go-stop-go-stop-go-stop-go-stop-go-stop-go-stop-go-stop-go-stop-go-stop-go-stop-go.

Turning right on a red (left in the UK) also worked really well, although here you'd need the space at junctions to make the most of it...


Re: lights and phasing - I see a lot of T-junctions (with separate lanes and filter-lights) where they just haven't thought about it - at a T-junction you have 6 separate lights (each road has 2 options when getting to the T), and you CAN operate 3 at a time without conflict. Except I've not seen one T-junction which employs this.