Tyre repairs - H&S madness
Discussion
Wifey's tyre has something stuck in it about the diameter of a paper clip. It's gone through and is leaking air very slowly. It's in the tread but near to the edge of the tyre, and because of this no-one wants to repair it. We've tried 4 places not (Kwik Fit, ATS, Formula 1 and Nationwide). I'm not shaming them by naming them here. It's their own policy.
A standard repair is to drill a bigger hole then glue a bung in the hole. I contend that it doesn't need anything other than some vulcanizing glue smeared over the hole on the inside of the tyre. It's really that small a hole. It won't have compromised the structure of the tyre either - I can pull the pin out (not all the way, obviously) and push it back in with ease.
In fact, making this tiny hole bigger seems utter madness.
None of the national chains will touch it. It's a £200 tyre which is virtually new. I just want someone to take it off while I smear vulcanizing rubber glue over the area, then for them to remount it and balance it.
Any ideas who to try in the South Midlands area please?
A standard repair is to drill a bigger hole then glue a bung in the hole. I contend that it doesn't need anything other than some vulcanizing glue smeared over the hole on the inside of the tyre. It's really that small a hole. It won't have compromised the structure of the tyre either - I can pull the pin out (not all the way, obviously) and push it back in with ease.
In fact, making this tiny hole bigger seems utter madness.
None of the national chains will touch it. It's a £200 tyre which is virtually new. I just want someone to take it off while I smear vulcanizing rubber glue over the area, then for them to remount it and balance it.
Any ideas who to try in the South Midlands area please?
Mars said:
I just want someone to take it off while I smear vulcanizing rubber glue over the area, then for them to remount it and balance it.
Take the paper clip out, position the tyre with the hole at the lowest point, and use a syringe to inject a nice blob of bicycle glue through the hole.soad said:
Try local small tyre place perhaps?
I'm not sure what else to suggest - if larger ones won't touch, bugger all you can do.
Yes, it's quite frustrating. I'll have a Google this evening for non-franchised tyre places in the area and go for a drive in the morning. Thanks. I'm not sure what else to suggest - if larger ones won't touch, bugger all you can do.
steveo3002 said:
ebay screw in repair kit ?
I've not heard of one of these. I'll have a look. Thanks. Pigeon said:
Mars said:
I just want someone to take it off while I smear vulcanizing rubber glue over the area, then for them to remount it and balance it.
Take the paper clip out, position the tyre with the hole at the lowest point, and use a syringe to inject a nice blob of bicycle glue through the hole.
Mars said:
soad said:
Try local small tyre place perhaps?
I'm not sure what else to suggest - if larger ones won't touch, bugger all you can do.
Yes, it's quite frustrating. I'll have a Google this evening for non-franchised tyre places in the area and go for a drive in the morning. Thanks. I'm not sure what else to suggest - if larger ones won't touch, bugger all you can do.
steveo3002 said:
ebay screw in repair kit ?
I've not heard of one of these. I'll have a look. Thanks. Pigeon said:
Mars said:
I just want someone to take it off while I smear vulcanizing rubber glue over the area, then for them to remount it and balance it.
Take the paper clip out, position the tyre with the hole at the lowest point, and use a syringe to inject a nice blob of bicycle glue through the hole.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAR-AND-VAN-TYRE-PUNCTURE-RE...
that type of thing ...i have no idea if its safe/proper/legal blah blah
i think our american friends still them alot
that type of thing ...i have no idea if its safe/proper/legal blah blah
i think our american friends still them alot
In the tyre fitter's defence, you are not supposed to repair a puncture when it is a certain distance (I forget exactly how much) from the edges of the tyre - this is an MOT failure if spotted, although bodging it with glue from the inside will be quite hard to spot.
If they did repair then you went on to have a blowout they would be liable, and when you are on £6/hr its just not worth it.
If they did repair then you went on to have a blowout they would be liable, and when you are on £6/hr its just not worth it.
That is fascinating, and I might resort to one of these, but I'm still hoping I can get someone to take off the tyre while I smear glue on the inside of the hole. It's so tiny it seems a shame to have to drill a larger hole.
Thanks. I'm tempted to order one of those kits as a "just in case" anyway.
Thanks. I'm tempted to order one of those kits as a "just in case" anyway.
I had a similar situation with a new tyre, no one would repair it as it was within like an inch of the sidewall. My first thought was toget some of that flat tyre repair in a can foam and fill it with that, in the end I found a new tyre on ebay for 15 quid ! I took it to Kwik Fit who refused to fit the tyre and told me no one would fit it for me, found a local tyre place that fitted it no problem.
Very frustrating when it happens to new tyre.
Very frustrating when it happens to new tyre.
Hi,
If the hole is that small. Rather than go to all the trouble of finding someone to repair
it why not get some tyre slime from a motorcycle shop and use this instead. This will save
you taking the tyre off, as it is poured in through the valve, and costs about £10.00 a bottle.
Andy..
If the hole is that small. Rather than go to all the trouble of finding someone to repair
it why not get some tyre slime from a motorcycle shop and use this instead. This will save
you taking the tyre off, as it is poured in through the valve, and costs about £10.00 a bottle.
Andy..
mybrainhurts said:
LISTEN...
You need a hot vulcanising place.
They're thin on the ground and specialise in lorry and tractor tyres.
When they have enough tyres to fill an oven, they bake them better.
Some require the tyre off the rim, others will remove it for you.
Expect to pay £20.
Did as mentioned above when I had a paper clip size thing stuck 35mm from the edge in a 255/45 that was a month old. You need a hot vulcanising place.
They're thin on the ground and specialise in lorry and tractor tyres.
When they have enough tyres to fill an oven, they bake them better.
Some require the tyre off the rim, others will remove it for you.
Expect to pay £20.
It took a week or so and was done in Bristol arranged by a firm in Swindon. Cost £25 - much better than the £200+ for a new tyre
Neil
bazking69 said:
I'm with EDLT. I'm sure there is a reasonable reason why FOUR tyre centres have refused to repair it.
There really isn't. They have "catch all" rules which are "over safe". To apply their rules for patching to this situation is bloody madness. There is no damage to the structure of the tyre but their standard mushroom-shaped patch will not work in this situation. The fact that I don't want them to use their standard mushroom-shaped patch because it would mean drilling a bigger hole AND that the patch head wouldn't seal against the inner radius of the tyre (as it's near to the sidewall) simply means they are not allowed to engage with me.It would be absolutely impossible for the tyre to "blowout" at this point merely because of the pinprick hole that's there today.
If I can't get anyone to help me out, I'll have to buy new tyre but I will insist on keeping the old one. I'll repair it myself, get it changed over so the new one is off the car, and leave it in the garage for when we need 4 (now 3) new ones.
I'm annoyed I didn't buy the set of wheels I saw on Ebay for this car last week. They went for £100 the set. That would have solved all issues. I have always thought having a spare set of wheels in the garage, already tyred, helps when you have unexpected pothole damage or punctures (both of which we have suffered in the past 2 years).
To be fair, a couple of the guys I spoke with today seemed either genuinely embarrassed that they were unable to help, or at least agreed with me and advised me to seek out an independent.
The national chains are there to sell tyres, yep. Can't argue with that. It's the same for most dealerships who rarely attempt to fix something if they can actually replace it I suppose.
The national chains are there to sell tyres, yep. Can't argue with that. It's the same for most dealerships who rarely attempt to fix something if they can actually replace it I suppose.
If it was my car i'd just replace the tyre. You may consider the rules to be 'over safe' but if the tyre does fail you're going to feel pretty bad about it, especially if your wife is driving...
At the end of the day it's your choice, but given how important tyres are I wouldn't be taking that chance.
At the end of the day it's your choice, but given how important tyres are I wouldn't be taking that chance.
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