whos got a bugaboo bee?
whos got a bugaboo bee?
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petemurphy

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10,967 posts

214 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Hi,

new parent in january and spending as much time looking at pram reviews as autotrader!

i thought i wanted a three wheeler funky thing like a phil and teds but the more i look the more i think i want something as small and light as poss. I am tall and have a bad back so after this weekend of trying to lug my chums v heavy pram into a car boot Im looking at the bee this morning.

Is it totally crap off road as it has samll wheels? and by off road i mean say going round goodwood fest of speed or a dry glastonbury.

is it really suitable from birth - i know they say it is but it looks like it doesnt go completly flat and looks like it comes with a sleeping bag rather than the cot of of the bigger travel systems.

Can you store enough on it to go out ok - ie is the basket big enough for all your crap or do you end up taking a bag of nappies etc to which would then kill my back again?

can you get any third party accessories?

any other comments?

thanks

V8_GWA

139 posts

283 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Just got a Quinny Zapp Xtra having had a few test drives on other models. Picked because its light, takes the car seat we've already got, folds small and can be manpacked.

Also, I quite like the name Quinny as it sounds a bit rude...

JungleJim

2,430 posts

243 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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i'm in the same boat.

i like it for its size and weight, but the mrs won't consider it due to the fact it won't go completely flat.

petemurphy

Original Poster:

10,967 posts

214 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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JungleJim said:
i'm in the same boat.

i like it for its size and weight, but the mrs won't consider it due to the fact it won't go completely flat.
any idea what you're gonna go for? cant get the quinny zap as it does not have extending height handle which is essential

we use the train a lot so worried if just get the bee rather than the bigger prams how do we transport it without the cot attachment to start with

JungleJim

2,430 posts

243 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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petemurphy said:
JungleJim said:
i'm in the same boat.

i like it for its size and weight, but the mrs won't consider it due to the fact it won't go completely flat.
any idea what you're gonna go for? cant get the quinny zap as it does not have extending height handle which is essential

we use the train a lot so worried if just get the bee rather than the bigger prams how do we transport it without the cot attachment to start with
probably a quinny buzz, although it doesn't fold as small as i'd like. The wife likes it as it has a very simple unfolding mechanism - its going to be her who spends most time using it for the first 6 months, so the choice is hers!

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

204 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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V8_GWA said:
Just got a Quinny Zapp Xtra having had a few test drives on other models. Picked because its light, takes the car seat we've already got, folds small and can be manpacked.

Also, I quite like the name Quinny as it sounds a bit rude...
+1

Have 2 of them and they both fit in the boot of our astra convertible.

FreeLitres

6,128 posts

208 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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V8_GWA said:
Just got a Quinny Zapp Xtra having had a few test drives on other models. Picked because its light, takes the car seat we've already got, folds small and can be manpacked.

Also, I quite like the name Quinny as it sounds a bit rude...
I hope our very own Quinny from PH gave them permission to use his name! redface

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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JungleJim said:
petemurphy said:
JungleJim said:
i'm in the same boat.

i like it for its size and weight, but the mrs won't consider it due to the fact it won't go completely flat.
any idea what you're gonna go for? cant get the quinny zap as it does not have extending height handle which is essential

we use the train a lot so worried if just get the bee rather than the bigger prams how do we transport it without the cot attachment to start with
probably a quinny buzz, although it doesn't fold as small as i'd like. The wife likes it as it has a very simple unfolding mechanism - its going to be her who spends most time using it for the first 6 months, so the choice is hers!
We've got a Buzz-3. It seems pretty good (4 weeks in now) although could be lighter - carbon version perhaps? hehe I need to order the all-terrain front wheel for it as the standard ones get a big bogged down on gravelly paths.

Chewitt

1,041 posts

268 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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we have a Jane (pronounced hannay) matrix travel system


AAFAIK its the only one that goes flat. Takes up the whole back seat, can be fiddly at first and isn't the lightest but is good offroad pram, does pram and then pushchair, flat car seat is like a carrycot, car seat will fold so it sits at an older age and is good VFM





kentmotorcompany

2,471 posts

241 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Got the Bee.

It is good on rough ground like grass etc, but rubbish on a loose surface like sand or stones.

It is very light, had ours from birth, and its been great. It is not completely flat, but its fine. Who said it has to be 100% flat or your babies arms and legs will fall off?

Fits plenty of stuff underneath, and we hang the change bag on the handles.

You don't need a temporary separate cot attachment, taking up more space.

When your baby is a bit older, you can sit him up a bit still facing you, then later on you can sit him up more, and make him face the front too, where it will be a good pushchair for a few years.

Rain cover that come with it works well, someone bought us the parasol attachment which is good on sunny days.

We are very happy with it.


Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

258 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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We;ve got a Bee and a Chameleon. Since we got the Bee the Cameleon sits cluttering up the kitchen. It will be on Ebay when i get round to it. The Bee is better than the Maclaren that we also used to have.

NO it doesn't go quite flat but unless you have a tiny little one we never found that to be a problem. Its pretty tough, but I would second the comments about very soft ground. So if you go walking on the beach a lot its probably not for you.

Jem0911

4,415 posts

232 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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We have a Phil and Teds double stacker sport thingy type.
Very good.
I bought a Beretta 687 the same day and Mrs Jem still thinks they cost the same.

pikey

7,704 posts

315 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Recently in this boat.

Settled on an iCandy Peach (with Maxi-Cosi car seat). It's great, but I probably wouldn't say the same if I was using the bus with it. It's very solid and great to use, but not the lightest.

becksW

14,698 posts

242 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Personally I do not believe anything without a carrycot is suitable from birth (3-4 months maybe)but that does make a unit heavier and bigger to start with, so could be a compromise is the way to go, find a system that does go properly flat (many say they do but they are not truly flat)

kentmotorcompany

2,471 posts

241 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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becksW said:
Personally I do not believe anything without a carrycot is suitable from birth (3-4 months maybe)but that does make a unit heavier and bigger to start with, so could be a compromise is the way to go, find a system that does go properly flat (many say they do but they are not truly flat)
Why not?


sal 965

586 posts

242 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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We've gone for the Stokke Xplory for our December delivery as we felt it offered closer contact between mother and baby due to the height adjustment.

A2Z

1,080 posts

257 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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We went through all this last year. With the Bugaboo, we surprisingly struggled to get a good report from either John Lewis or the independents. I got the impression that they were the Dyson of prams. Everyone wants one but in use they are not "that" good and have a surprising ammount of warranty returns etc.

Have a good look at the iCandy range. We went for the Cherry model and it is rather good. We almost went for a City Jogger...that is a pram that is easy to fold! Couldn't get it to face us though so Mrs A2Z ruled it out.

Edited by A2Z on Sunday 17th October 18:44

joebongo

1,517 posts

206 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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All the yummy mummies and middle class aspirationalists around me in Essex put me right off all the fancy-schmancy prams/pushchairs (buggies are American dontchaknow).

So, it was the Streety travel system for us. One handed opening and closing for when you have the little one in your arms, has a car seat and pushchair bases with it. Useless off road and the handle height can't be adjusted but goes proper flat and you'd easily get it in a Smart car. The missus' friends are very jealous of the one handed business - look in car parks at the 4x4 mummies spending 5 minutes constructing their pushchairs and looking puzzled at them - all bling and no practicality.

I don't have Isofix in my old E38 (and apparently Isofix is too rigid causing more shock being pushed through the baby in an accident as they are rock solid iron rigid), so this was ok as this car seat doesn't either.

Now, don't forget seat protectors and something for the floors - you don't want your wheels to smell of wet straw forever if her waters break/gush/leak in your car.

And...cars have a wheel at each corner and I think that's a good principle for a pushchair. Also look at the high centre of gravity for some of the trendy prams - not good.


Fletch79

1,643 posts

228 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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I've got the Quinny Buzz, The Quinny Zapp, a brand new Maclaren and an old safety first jogging stroller (that's the american for buggy) thing sat here.

Quinny Buzz .. Great with 0+ car seat, pram attachment. Is also a great forward and backward facing buggy, just huge when folded up! Can be a bit stiff at first for the wife to push closed against the gas damper that pops it open - Sorted mine with silicone spray

Quinny Zapp .. Good pushchair for normal use, don't think you will do much off roading with it! - Folds up nice and compact but its a wee bit fiddly, once your used to it it's a doddle!!!!

Maclaren .. Folds up quite small but is still long, just an everyday buggy now he's big enough. No offroading, it would be ste!!

Safety 1st .. It's a jogging stroller, big wheels, long and can be rear or forward facing ... It's fooking HUGE!! and only for jogging ... avoid!!

As for the isofix/belt argument.
So you want some give in your childs seat in a side on smash?? No thanks.
Eveybodies seen the numbers on wrongly mounted car seats, the isofix takes that worry away!!
All the isofix seats i have can also be used in cars WITHOUT isofix! So you can go in somebody elses car no problems!
There is some give in all the seats i have, none are as solidly mounted as you make out, I'm sure all the shock loadings have been designed well enough!