Motorsport Capital
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kiteless

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12,557 posts

233 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Watching an episode of Man vs Food (see the F&D forum for info) earlier, Adam was in Indianapolis and stated, "I'm in Indianapolis: The Motorsport Capital of the World!!!".

Is there such a thing? If so, where is it? I'm pretty sure it's not Indianapolis.

Thinking about it, I'd go for Monza as races there still take place in the general footprint of the old banked oval. Then again, the Le Mans circuit is - IIRC - still in the general curtilage of the original track?

Spa, maybe?

Brno?

What would - actually - define "The Motorsport Capital of The World"? What would the criteria be?

Monaco? No. Although historic, it's just for one race per year.
Goodwood? No. Steeped in history, but not currently relevant.
Silverstone? Maybe.
Donington Park? Maybe.


groomi

9,331 posts

272 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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In terms of volume of fans, television audiences and history, then Indy is probably a very good shout. Just because oval racing doesn't float your boat, doesn't mean it's not massively popular and always has been.

kiteless

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12,557 posts

233 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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I'd not thought of audience numbers.

Hence my question on what the criteria would be.

williamp

20,386 posts

302 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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The thing is, a lot of different locations would use different criteria to call themselves this.

Le Mans: the most famous race in the world, home to current teams including oreca and pescarolo, and home town of the Bourdais family..

Indy: the most famous race in the world, home to several US teams, biggest single sporting event in the motorsport calender

Northants: Home to silverstone (itself the "home of the british Grand Prix", home to several F1 teams, also Rockingham and Santa Pod

Leics: Home to Donington (one pre-war motor racing circuit still in use today), Mallory park, several motor racing teams, plus Norton and Triumph motorbike manufacturers, Noble, Ultima etc etc. Home to drivers inclduing Roger Clark, Roger Williamson


See what I mean? Depending on the angle, almost anywhere could be called the motorsport capital. Even Paris (HQ of the FIA...)

wildman0609

885 posts

205 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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ask a nascar fan where the capital of motorsport is they would say charlotte. every team is based there, or they may say daytona because of the history.
the motorsport industry around indy is massive too, way beyond what we have around silverstone.

in f1 terms silverstone is the capital.

in the second week in june le mans is the undisputed capital, there is nothing like it.

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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its the midlands...

hullbilly

383 posts

201 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Indianapolis is called the capital justifiably due to the huge amount of motorsport businesses in the area and the race circuit, you cant fathom quite how many motorsport based companies are in the area.

Its not about which race circuit is best etc, yes northampton has a lot but compared to Indy its tiny....

Henry Fiddleton

1,597 posts

206 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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The Midlands is the Silicon Valley of motorsport...
wink

belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Charlotte North Carolina I would have thought topped the list. The number of factories and NASCAR teams within a 50 mile radius is massive along with the superspeedway and the motorsport culture.

Japan too has some very impressive credentials with Mugen and NISMO offering outstanding facilities and engineering skills.

The Nurburgring in many ways would top many people's lists. Look at the number of Porsche specialists in the area and the number of manufacturers who test their cars there and have suspension, engine and steering laboratories within a 10km radius.

Stuttgardt also must be way up there with M-B and Porsche factories nearby and don't forget BMW in Munich and the huge number of engineering firms supplying parts to BMW for factory and independent teams globally.

StevieBee

15,294 posts

284 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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If you use the geographic definition of capital - that being the seat of government - then, sadly, it would have to be Paris.

If you use the less well defined "industry focus" definition (as in Silicon Valley), then it would be that bit of the M40 corridor between Milton Keynes and Banbury.

Indy, Le Mans etc, would be more a "Mecca"

onomatopoeia

3,526 posts

246 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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wildman0609 said:
ask a nascar fan where the capital of motorsport is they would say charlotte. every team is based there
  1. 78 isn't!

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Certainly when i was at Daytone a few years back for the 24hr, every 10 mins they would say over the PA..

"Here at the Worlds Center for Motorsport".. it soon got a bit grating, so the 4 of us would shout every time "MAllory PArk" in response hehe

compocon

137 posts

193 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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DangerousMike said:
its the midlands...
+1

Dr Derek Doctors

8,422 posts

222 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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DangerousMike said:
its the midlands...
Yep, probably an inconspicuous industrial estate somewhere between Birmingham and Milton Keynes

CampDavid

9,145 posts

227 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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There is no capital really. I guess you could go for the Midlands as so much industry there is based around motorsport but in reality it exists everywhere. I guess that's the great thing about it

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

235 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Certainly the midlands.
Specifically the area around Silverstone/Brackley/Northampton/Milton Keynes - so many race teams and motorsport technology companies around there.

Britcar David

386 posts

221 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Although as another vote for Indy, it is the oldest purpose built motor racing circuit still in use. (Brooklands as the oldest doesn't count as it's no longer complete as a circuit and doesn't have regular competition use)

eastlmark

1,656 posts

236 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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onomatopoeia said:
wildman0609 said:
ask a nascar fan where the capital of motorsport is they would say charlotte. every team is based there
  1. 78 isn't!
Isnt this a Childress car?

cotswoldlad

49 posts

206 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Henry Fiddleton said:
The Midlands is the Silicon Valley of motorsport...
wink
My sentiments exactly

kiteless

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12,557 posts

233 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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cotswoldlad said:
Henry Fiddleton said:
The Midlands is the Silicon Valley of motorsport...
wink
My sentiments exactly
I understand the thinking behind that, and reminded of it every time I'm on the M40 near Brackley when signposts on one side point to Silverstone, and on the opposite side of the Motorway is the ProDrive factory.

I suppose I'm thinking of a specific "place" where there is still a current and relevant track in use, where racing has been going on since "the early days" (whatever that might be), and also is used by various formulae for racing.

Maybe I'm thinking more about a "ceremonial" Capital of Motorsport, with an equal Technological Capital. Certainly the corridor between the M40 and M1 could be the technological centre.

I like the idea of Le Mans as the ceremonial capital. A track largely unchanged for decades, a depth of history, still relevant and current and popular, home of the 24hr car race, the 24hr bike race, the home of the French round of the world motorcycle GP championship.