No wonder the ride was like a donkey...
No wonder the ride was like a donkey...
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mrzigazaga

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18,816 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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Hi folks..Well heres the culprit..All this rust came from inside the fuel tank..10yrs worth..No wonder she was running like a complete mare..It was even found in the metering head..WUR..Injectors..pump..Glad the other tank was plastic coated..Many thanks to dwgriffith for the secondhand tank..would of been up poo creek without a paddle..wah..cheers.

jeff m

4,066 posts

288 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Pity cars don't run on iron oxidesmile

How close are you to taking it on the road?

mrzigazaga

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18,816 posts

195 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Hi jeff..Not long hopefully..waiting on downpipe which has had to be made and cherry bomb mid silencers to arrive(cheaper than Orig)..so might be weekend or early next week.. apparently shes running properly..it will be such a relief as ive had the car for three months now and havent driven it in good working order yet..soon though..cheers..mark

Grady

1,233 posts

290 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Just wondering - a number of threads have been about filling tanks.

With a 2" equalizer hose near the top and the two smaller balancing hoses, science says the tanks should equalize eventually. So what causes the 2 tanks not to fill evenly???

I'm personally convinced my 2nd tank doesn't fill at all. I have had the hoses changed (but didn't drop the tanks which apparently are the first pieces you start with when you build a wedge as they go deepest into the middle) but the shop didn't find a clog, blockage or reason why the tanks don't fill or equalize. Unfortunately they put all the new hoses back on before I could get over and eyeball it.

Mr. Z, now that the rust is out, does your shop see any reason why you can't put about 15 gallons (sorry - unknown number of litters) into 2 empty cross-connected 7.5 gallon tanks?


jeff m

4,066 posts

288 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Grady said:
Just wondering - a number of threads have been about filling tanks.

With a 2" equalizer hose near the top and the two smaller balancing hoses, science says the tanks should equalize eventually. So what causes the 2 tanks not to fill evenly???

I'm personally convinced my 2nd tank doesn't fill at all. I have had the hoses changed (but didn't drop the tanks which apparently are the first pieces you start with when you build a wedge as they go deepest into the middle) but the shop didn't find a clog, blockage or reason why the tanks don't fill or equalize. Unfortunately they put all the new hoses back on before I could get over and eyeball it.

Mr. Z, now that the rust is out, does your shop see any reason why you can't put about 15 gallons (sorry - unknown number of litters) into 2 empty cross-connected 7.5 gallon tanks?

The early cars have a swirlpot with two connections, one to each tank.
So when filling up it has to initially get into the second tank via the swirlpot. Later during the fill it reaches the upper hoses, but by that time the car at the next pump has put in 30 gallons and most have given upbiggrin.

mrzigazaga

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18,816 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Hi chaps.. Not 100% but looking at the diagram you would have to fill up to the top hose before it fills into second tank..some fuel gets sent back to the second tank if not needed but thats minimal..probably what jeff said..I do remember when i first got it and put £50 petrol..was ok up to £30 and then i had to slow the filling as it was half way up the filler neck and drained slower..but went in..bit of a weird set up..I think the swirl pot has a filter which would probably slow the flow a bit..It seems a bit naff as they could of made it one tank with a single feed to a swirlpot keeping overflows and returns as there isnt anything in the middle except the joining pipes..maybe for cost?

Wedg1e

27,041 posts

295 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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mrzigazaga said:
It seems a bit naff as they could of made it one tank with a single feed to a swirlpot keeping overflows and returns as there isnt anything in the middle except the joining pipes..maybe for cost?
Not quite true: there's a big f-off chassis, propshaft and exhaust in the way wink

mrzigazaga

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18,816 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Thanks wedg1e for pointing that out..bit hard to miss really..getmecoat.. Or maybe just lowered the top pipes a little.. maybe baby..or stop being so impatient and spend a little longer filling up..more time to gloat i spose..hehe

jeff m

4,066 posts

288 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Imagine sceaming engine sounds in the background

".... with only 14 laps to go I can't see the Tasmin regaining the lead after that 14 minute pitstop"

Mr Wedgle, did the Esprit have similar, or did Winterbottom do this bit on a Monday. (or possibly Friday after a liquid lunch)

mrzigazaga

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18,816 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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I reckon they should of used 2x2" joining instead of 1x2" and 1x5/8"..Theres enough room to have em and it would of made filling a bit quicker..I dont think they were thinking about the tanks untill they had built the chassis..They might as well of put it in the boot..your sitting on it anyway..

MJG280

723 posts

289 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Just seen on the Kitcar site I think but can't find at the moment someone using a Golf nk11 GTI fuel pump which is s remote fitting with built in swirl tank. pump and fuel filter straped to the side. Looks useful

mrzigazaga

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18,816 posts

195 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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I think wedg1e is right as regards to not much room under there..maybe someone who welds could modify the chassis where the tanks are..maybe remove small cross members and re-strengthen somehow and maybe possibly get a rectangular plastic tank made that houses a combined pump,swirlpot,filter..Its probably not poss and one of the things that will remain an issue forever...

MJG280

723 posts

289 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Have a look underneath

mrzigazaga

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18,816 posts

195 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Ive been looking at loads of pics from people that do chassis restoration..maybe its poss..
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&am...
The rear 40-50% support that travels towards the trailing arm (from 11 to 5 oclock)looks like it could be re-positioned..just to make a bit more space..maybe..??




Edited by mrzigazaga on Sunday 24th October 22:35