P Zeros for the GTR.
Discussion
Just wanted to let you guys know how good the P zeros have been for me. I bought my car with 500 miles on it and it strangely came with the tyres and a Y piece!
I mainly track the car on a very famillar track to me and I have been blown away with the tyres, even compareing them to the 888's on my track car. I have seen another gtr loose it trying to stay with me, before you think it i'm not the Stig (far far from it!) I haven't tried the Bridgestones or Dunlops but i wont be bothering because if they are better it will be fractional, but i'd be surprised if they were. I dont have a problem carrying tyre weld and compareing the avaliability and price I really think it's a no brainer!!
Craig.
I mainly track the car on a very famillar track to me and I have been blown away with the tyres, even compareing them to the 888's on my track car. I have seen another gtr loose it trying to stay with me, before you think it i'm not the Stig (far far from it!) I haven't tried the Bridgestones or Dunlops but i wont be bothering because if they are better it will be fractional, but i'd be surprised if they were. I dont have a problem carrying tyre weld and compareing the avaliability and price I really think it's a no brainer!!
Craig.
With all due respect, I suggest you are impressed with them because you have not tried any other tyres on your GT-R yet!
Those of us who did the Nissan Race Academy days in late 2008 drove GT-Rs on P Zeros and they were ok, but there was more understeer and general ESP interference than some of us were expecting.
Driving our own cars on the Dunlops when they arrived was a major revelation. They are the closest thing you can imagine to an R compound run-flat!
The Bridgestones are a poor second, but due to their stiff runflat sidewalls, probably still better than the P Zeros that were never designed to support a car as heavy as the GT-R.
I am now on my second set of Toyo R888s and they are certainly the best of all for outright grip. Would like to drive a car on new Dunlops to see how they compare in terms of steering accuracy and handling balance. My suspicion is that the monster 315mm rears are possibly TOO grippy, reducing the fun factor and adjustability of the car somewhat.
So I'm pleased you like the Pirellis, but I can almost guarantee you'll be blown away by any of the alternatives when the time comes, which is a shame as they are the cheapest tyre that fits by a large margin. But try a GT-R on some other tyres before you buy another set.
Those of us who did the Nissan Race Academy days in late 2008 drove GT-Rs on P Zeros and they were ok, but there was more understeer and general ESP interference than some of us were expecting.
Driving our own cars on the Dunlops when they arrived was a major revelation. They are the closest thing you can imagine to an R compound run-flat!
The Bridgestones are a poor second, but due to their stiff runflat sidewalls, probably still better than the P Zeros that were never designed to support a car as heavy as the GT-R.
I am now on my second set of Toyo R888s and they are certainly the best of all for outright grip. Would like to drive a car on new Dunlops to see how they compare in terms of steering accuracy and handling balance. My suspicion is that the monster 315mm rears are possibly TOO grippy, reducing the fun factor and adjustability of the car somewhat.
So I'm pleased you like the Pirellis, but I can almost guarantee you'll be blown away by any of the alternatives when the time comes, which is a shame as they are the cheapest tyre that fits by a large margin. But try a GT-R on some other tyres before you buy another set.
As heavy a car as the Nissan GTR? Performance Mercedes use Pzero, I believe the Ferrari 599 uses Pzero and the weight of that thing is not far off the GTR (1625 vs 1725kgs) plus it has a lot more power as standard
Having said that if you have tried them and really thought they were only average then of course I am not going to doubt youFor GTR's that are not tracked though I guess the difference between those and Dunlops are not so great....hmmm.....still pondering this one....
Having said that if you have tried them and really thought they were only average then of course I am not going to doubt youFor GTR's that are not tracked though I guess the difference between those and Dunlops are not so great....hmmm.....still pondering this one....No doubt they would be ok for road use, I was talking about mixed use including tracks.
However you would be denying the car a key critical component in its performance potential.
The Dunlops and Bridgestones (and incidentally those 20" R888s) were developed specifically for the GT-R, the rest weren't.
However you would be denying the car a key critical component in its performance potential.
The Dunlops and Bridgestones (and incidentally those 20" R888s) were developed specifically for the GT-R, the rest weren't.
Godzilla said:
No doubt they would be ok for road use, I was talking about mixed use including tracks.
However you would be denying the car a key critical component in its performance potential.
The Dunlops and Bridgestones (and incidentally those 20" R888s) were developed specifically for the GT-R, the rest weren't.
Hi managed to get a set of 4 Bridgestones in readiness for my tyre change and got an absolute deal from Kwik Fit, these boys are excellent and are storing them from me....they have had so many nationwide enquiries as supply is so limited....However you would be denying the car a key critical component in its performance potential.
The Dunlops and Bridgestones (and incidentally those 20" R888s) were developed specifically for the GT-R, the rest weren't.
Godzilla said:
No doubt they would be ok for road use, I was talking about mixed use including tracks.
However you would be denying the car a key critical component in its performance potential.
The Dunlops and Bridgestones (and incidentally those 20" R888s) were developed specifically for the GT-R, the rest weren't.
Would you say that the Bridgestones are better than PZeroes?However you would be denying the car a key critical component in its performance potential.
The Dunlops and Bridgestones (and incidentally those 20" R888s) were developed specifically for the GT-R, the rest weren't.
christer said:
Godzilla said:
No doubt they would be ok for road use, I was talking about mixed use including tracks.
However you would be denying the car a key critical component in its performance potential.
The Dunlops and Bridgestones (and incidentally those 20" R888s) were developed specifically for the GT-R, the rest weren't.
Would you say that the Bridgestones are better than PZeroes?However you would be denying the car a key critical component in its performance potential.
The Dunlops and Bridgestones (and incidentally those 20" R888s) were developed specifically for the GT-R, the rest weren't.
What I would like is a decently priced, UK-available all weather alternative.
All of the GT-R tyres, and I'm including the R888s in that, are absolutely lethal in standing water, particularly when part worn.
The US and JDM markets get offered the Dunlop All Seasons tyre specifically for the GT-R in colder/wetter climes, so why don't we?
Anyone tried Michelin PS2s?
Godzilla said:
christer said:
Godzilla said:
No doubt they would be ok for road use, I was talking about mixed use including tracks.
However you would be denying the car a key critical component in its performance potential.
The Dunlops and Bridgestones (and incidentally those 20" R888s) were developed specifically for the GT-R, the rest weren't.
Would you say that the Bridgestones are better than PZeroes?However you would be denying the car a key critical component in its performance potential.
The Dunlops and Bridgestones (and incidentally those 20" R888s) were developed specifically for the GT-R, the rest weren't.
What I would like is a decently priced, UK-available all weather alternative.
All of the GT-R tyres, and I'm including the R888s in that, are absolutely lethal in standing water, particularly when part worn.
The US and JDM markets get offered the Dunlop All Seasons tyre specifically for the GT-R in colder/wetter climes, so why don't we?
Anyone tried Michelin PS2s?
http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/michelin-pilot-spo...
Maybe 275/35 front and 295/35 rear - all high load XL/N rated.
I appreciate ure your advise Godzilla, but I think the differences must be marginal and probably well outwith the capabilitys of most drivers and certainly road driving. I have felt slight understeer at the track but obviously i have no comparison as yet, I was expecting to be underwelmed by the P Zeros having been used to the 888's (on my track car) but I have to say I wasn't, I think my point was that for a set of tyres costing £1000 with no supply issues i was very pleasently surprised. I still feel it will be valuable information to the majority of gtr owners who drive on roads and will never push the car to limits where tyre choice becomes so critical.
Lets face most gtr's never see a track anyway.
Craig.
Lets face most gtr's never see a track anyway.
Craig.
Owners are buying the Bridgestones for about £1000 from Kwik Fit (when they can get hold of a set) as they are doing a 25% off Bridgestone deal.
I am fairly certain you will notice a marked difference in handling switching to them when youre P Zeros are worn out, even in spirited road driving.
It's not necessarily the better grip, but the response and greater neutrality you will notice.
I am fairly certain you will notice a marked difference in handling switching to them when youre P Zeros are worn out, even in spirited road driving.
It's not necessarily the better grip, but the response and greater neutrality you will notice.
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