Severe ear pain when flying
Severe ear pain when flying
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Georgiegirl

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869 posts

238 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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I'm going to Egypt (hooray!) in three weeks but am already dreading the flight - my ears are apparently rubbish at equalising the pressure which makes flying agony. Swallowing/yawning etc does not even touch it - tried ear planes but they are no help either. Has anybody else had any experience of this? I'm wondering whether to visit the gp before I go because it really makes holidays no fun - I will be in pain and practically deaf for at least 3 days after flying.

whitechief

4,432 posts

224 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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I get terrible Sinus pain during the final descent due to the pressure not equalising. Have you tried taking an anti-histamine and decongestant for twenty four hours before flying, then during the flight using a nasal decongestant spray?

Georgiegirl

Original Poster:

869 posts

238 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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No I haven't, which ones would you recommend?

shoggoth1

816 posts

294 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Have you done the 'hold your nose and blow' trick? It's what divers do to equalise the pressure.

whitechief

4,432 posts

224 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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For anti-hisatmine I use anything with Cetirizine in (Zirtek etc.) decongestant I tend to use pseudoephedrine based (sudafed etc.).

Georgiegirl

Original Poster:

869 posts

238 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Thanks Whitechief - I'll visit the pharmacist instead of the GP!

Hi Shoggoth1 - yes I do that, but I have to do it every 30 seconds and the pain is still there so not an ideal solution!

Apparently it doesn't help that I had several bad ear infections when I was a child/teen which caused scarring on the ear drums. That and my tubes that connect might be narrower than average.

grumbledoak

32,565 posts

262 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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If you have trouble equalizing the pressure, try boiled sweets. Really swallowing the juices (ho ho!) is more effective than trying to fake it with saliva (oh, gods!)

goldblum

10,272 posts

196 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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One or both of your Eustacian tubes is probably blocked.Probably a course of antibiotics will clear it,maybe not.

See a ENT specialist,but get on with it.

Fatman2

1,464 posts

198 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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[reads thread with interest]

I feel your pain, literally, as I get the exact same thing. Sadly the usual advice just does not come close as the pain is mostly unbearable and leaves me with headaches for days after. It's a nightmare for the wife as she loves going away but I hate it.

From what I understand it's either the rate of change in pressure or altitude that affects the ears. I'm not sure if you've found this but flying to Paris or any other flight that has a short duration is ok due to the lower flight altitude (and thus change in pressure). The rate of change also has an effect and flying to New York is generally fine for me as large aircraft usually descend extremely gradually (hence giving your tubes a chance to adapt to the pressure change). Not all long haul flights descend gradually though so can be hit/miss.

Probably the most effective thing I've done (albeit completely riduculous looking) is to use two plastic cups and to hold them over your ears (reasonably tightly). A hostess gave me this one to try and it works a treat for me. From what I can gather the cups create a void of air that acts as a buffer.

Other than that I've not found anything else that works other than the cups and/or select destinations that I know don't give me any problems!

King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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I fly internationally every month, have done for years, and very occasionally I have had this same ear trouble. I've found so far that holding the nose and blowing hard and long, pressurising your whole head (or so it feels) then sniffing in hard and long, will usually unblock the Eustachian tubes. You can hear and feel a sort of crackling noise in the ear as it unblocks.


Google [bot]

6,828 posts

210 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Another vote here for the proper pseudoephedrine Sudafed. I won't fly without them. Get the day & night ones and you effectively have the option of speed or sedative fun with the remainders while on holiday.

Georgiegirl

Original Poster:

869 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Thanks for all the advice and help - looks like I have an action plan now!

I take antihistamines for 24 hours before hand thanks to Whitechief. Then I take Google [bot]'s sudafed before I fly, board the plane and ask for two plastic cups Fatman2 style, and hold these over my ears while munching boiled sweets a la grumbledoak!

Might visit the doc anyway as goldblum says, as its not just flying that hurts my ears, they are ridiculously sensitive to cold/wind too and when I get a cold or similar my hearing goes muffly and they crack and pop like a good'un.

Sorted!

Ps - Fatman2, I did actually find that flying to Vancouver was better than the short hop to Lanzarote last year - interesting! Perhaps some of the advice on here will help you too.

Fatman2

1,464 posts

198 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Georgiegirl said:
Ps - Fatman2, I did actually find that flying to Vancouver was better than the short hop to Lanzarote last year - interesting! Perhaps some of the advice on here will help you too.
I hope so. I never heard about the Sudafed thing so many thanks to those that have suggested it.

Hope your trip goes ok smile

spikeyhead

20,360 posts

226 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Use some Karvol, nothing works better as an instant decongestant.

alternatively, chop your ears off

King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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You might have inner ear infections? I had one before, and there is no pain, no indication, except my hearing felt a touch muffled, just not quite right.

I went to the docs and he could see the ear drum was a paler colour than it is supposed to be. Antibiotics cured it, but it took two-three weeks before the muffled sensation went away. The doc had told me it would take a while to clear the much inside.

Georgiegirl

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869 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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I will not be chopping ears off I need them to hook my glasses on biggrin

Oooh karvol! I remember that, I used to have it on my Dads hanky when I was little and poorly. Smells amazing, I love it.

KingHerald I don't think it's an infection (had them before and they are awful) more the fact that I generally just have crap ears. And a crap nose. Hmm, starting to see a pattern here - maybe I should just snort some bleach and give everything a good rinse through!

whitechief

4,432 posts

224 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Targarama

14,780 posts

312 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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King Herald said:
You might have inner ear infections? I had one before, and there is no pain, no indication, except my hearing felt a touch muffled, just not quite right.

I went to the docs and he could see the ear drum was a paler colour than it is supposed to be. Antibiotics cured it, but it took two-three weeks before the muffled sensation went away. The doc had told me it would take a while to clear the much inside.
This.

If you've had problems then best get things checked out, maybe even try a different doctor. I went to the docs a few times due to a slightly blocked right ear, each time I was told to use drops or various other things to clear it. Moved to another doctor, first time he looked he knew and referred me to the specialist. Luckily I have private cover so it happened straight away. It was a Cholesteatoma, not nice when you know what it is. Luckily for me (as I travel for business on planes weekly) there was no 'flight pain'. 2 operations later, a now a grommit put in yesterday to help drain fluid (just like a kid with what they call glue ear).. The specialist was a genius, rebuilding the inner ear bones/titanium inserts and stuff. Clevertastic.

Georgiegirl

Original Poster:

869 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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That doesn't sound fun! Have you done it? Bloody google, I'm now convinced I have over large adenoids as well.

whitechief

4,432 posts

224 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Georgiegirl said:
That doesn't sound fun! Have you done it? Bloody google, I'm now convinced I have over large adenoids as well.
Probably Polyps too wink