Things to do whilst Body Off & Engine Out?
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I have an expensive winter ahead!
I'm getting a long list of work done to my Chimaera 450 and just thought i'd ask if there were any other things that I have not thought about that are worth doing at the same time as Engine Out and Body off as i know lots of things are easier to get to and would save money in the long run. Also, for those that have done a similar amount of work - Are there any extra things you can think of that will be discovered along the way that i am likely to get tempted to do (e.g. replace water hoses with silicon hoses, upgrade components etc)
List of major bits being done is below:
Replace rusty outriggers, clean up, zinc primer, and dinitrol protect whole chassis
Complete Engine out rebuild - All new seals and gaskets, New Cam and followers, anything else that needs doing.
New Clutch
Sort out blowing manifold from 4-1 branch
Recore Radiator
Replace worn diff bushes
Replace worn rear wishbone bushes
Replace Front lower wishbones
Several other smaller bits and pieces...
The only cosmetic thing i have thought about doing is getting the rocker covers painted/coated (as they will be off anyway) to make the engine after it's rebuild look nice and new! - Can anyone recommend a place to do this? What sort of cost would i be looking at?
NB: I have VERY limited funds that i will be paying off for years to come! - The engine rebuild was not planned!!, so whilst it would be nice to replace everything with nice shiny things - It's unfortunately not going to happen at the moment! Just want to get clear in my mind in advance if i have not thought of anything that may need doing or things i might get tempted to do once work commences!
Cheers
Tim
I'm getting a long list of work done to my Chimaera 450 and just thought i'd ask if there were any other things that I have not thought about that are worth doing at the same time as Engine Out and Body off as i know lots of things are easier to get to and would save money in the long run. Also, for those that have done a similar amount of work - Are there any extra things you can think of that will be discovered along the way that i am likely to get tempted to do (e.g. replace water hoses with silicon hoses, upgrade components etc)
List of major bits being done is below:
Replace rusty outriggers, clean up, zinc primer, and dinitrol protect whole chassis
Complete Engine out rebuild - All new seals and gaskets, New Cam and followers, anything else that needs doing.
New Clutch
Sort out blowing manifold from 4-1 branch
Recore Radiator
Replace worn diff bushes
Replace worn rear wishbone bushes
Replace Front lower wishbones
Several other smaller bits and pieces...
The only cosmetic thing i have thought about doing is getting the rocker covers painted/coated (as they will be off anyway) to make the engine after it's rebuild look nice and new! - Can anyone recommend a place to do this? What sort of cost would i be looking at?
NB: I have VERY limited funds that i will be paying off for years to come! - The engine rebuild was not planned!!, so whilst it would be nice to replace everything with nice shiny things - It's unfortunately not going to happen at the moment! Just want to get clear in my mind in advance if i have not thought of anything that may need doing or things i might get tempted to do once work commences!
Cheers
Tim
Timja said:
I have an expensive winter ahead!
I'm getting a long list of work done to my Chimaera 450 and just thought i'd ask if there were any other things that I have not thought about that are worth doing at the same time as Engine Out and Body off as i know lots of things are easier to get to and would save money in the long run. Also, for those that have done a similar amount of work - Are there any extra things you can think of that will be discovered along the way that i am likely to get tempted to do (e.g. replace water hoses with silicon hoses, upgrade components etc)
List of major bits being done is below:
Replace rusty outriggers, clean up, zinc primer, and dinitrol protect whole chassis
Complete Engine out rebuild - All new seals and gaskets, New Cam and followers, anything else that needs doing.
New Clutch
Sort out blowing manifold from 4-1 branch
Recore Radiator
Replace worn diff bushes
Replace worn rear wishbone bushes
Replace Front lower wishbones
Several other smaller bits and pieces...
The only cosmetic thing i have thought about doing is getting the rocker covers painted/coated (as they will be off anyway) to make the engine after it's rebuild look nice and new! - Can anyone recommend a place to do this? What sort of cost would i be looking at?
NB: I have VERY limited funds that i will be paying off for years to come! - The engine rebuild was not planned!!, so whilst it would be nice to replace everything with nice shiny things - It's unfortunately not going to happen at the moment! Just want to get clear in my mind in advance if i have not thought of anything that may need doing or things i might get tempted to do once work commences!
Cheers
Tim
Thinking of doing this myself but holding off because I know I'm going to end up replacing every nut and bolt for a shiny new one and probably end up going for a full respray and replacement hood for good measure. Could get costly.I'm getting a long list of work done to my Chimaera 450 and just thought i'd ask if there were any other things that I have not thought about that are worth doing at the same time as Engine Out and Body off as i know lots of things are easier to get to and would save money in the long run. Also, for those that have done a similar amount of work - Are there any extra things you can think of that will be discovered along the way that i am likely to get tempted to do (e.g. replace water hoses with silicon hoses, upgrade components etc)
List of major bits being done is below:
Replace rusty outriggers, clean up, zinc primer, and dinitrol protect whole chassis
Complete Engine out rebuild - All new seals and gaskets, New Cam and followers, anything else that needs doing.
New Clutch
Sort out blowing manifold from 4-1 branch
Recore Radiator
Replace worn diff bushes
Replace worn rear wishbone bushes
Replace Front lower wishbones
Several other smaller bits and pieces...
The only cosmetic thing i have thought about doing is getting the rocker covers painted/coated (as they will be off anyway) to make the engine after it's rebuild look nice and new! - Can anyone recommend a place to do this? What sort of cost would i be looking at?
NB: I have VERY limited funds that i will be paying off for years to come! - The engine rebuild was not planned!!, so whilst it would be nice to replace everything with nice shiny things - It's unfortunately not going to happen at the moment! Just want to get clear in my mind in advance if i have not thought of anything that may need doing or things i might get tempted to do once work commences!
Cheers
Tim
Tim
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Thinking of doing this myself but holding off because I know I'm going to end up replacing every nut and bolt for a shiny new one and probably end up going for a full respray and replacement hood for good measure. Could get costly.
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It CERTAINLY will trust me!
But worth it
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Thinking of doing this myself but holding off because I know I'm going to end up replacing every nut and bolt for a shiny new one and probably end up going for a full respray and replacement hood for good measure. Could get costly.
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It CERTAINLY will trust me!
But worth it
Having done a body off I can tell you it can get seriously expensive.
If you're on a limited budget do items that really are much more difficult with the body on, fuel and brake pipes, bushes that you have identified etc.
Be strict with what can wait - rocker covers can be done later when its back together - I know you'll have to take plenum off but that's not that difficult if you can work a spanner.
Have you done anything with the engine yet? V8 Racing Rob Robertson did me a great deal on a bottom end rebuild - PM me if you want to know what he did / cost.
If you're on a limited budget do items that really are much more difficult with the body on, fuel and brake pipes, bushes that you have identified etc.
Be strict with what can wait - rocker covers can be done later when its back together - I know you'll have to take plenum off but that's not that difficult if you can work a spanner.
Have you done anything with the engine yet? V8 Racing Rob Robertson did me a great deal on a bottom end rebuild - PM me if you want to know what he did / cost.
spend said:
Renew fuel filter & pipes.
I have often wondered if with a little attention to detail on rebuild if it would be possible to allow for a good lift in the future, ie bit more flex on the wiring, flexible brake & clutch pipes, superflex rad hoses, extra flex fuel lines..?
Replacing Fuel filter was also on my list, mainly because i was going to do it last service, but the pipe on one side looked a bit perished and i did not want to disturb it as i was leaving for Le Mans 3 days later and did not have time to sort if there was a problem once disturbed.I have often wondered if with a little attention to detail on rebuild if it would be possible to allow for a good lift in the future, ie bit more flex on the wiring, flexible brake & clutch pipes, superflex rad hoses, extra flex fuel lines..?
Barkychoc said:
Having done a body off I can tell you it can get seriously expensive.
If you're on a limited budget do items that really are much more difficult with the body on, fuel and brake pipes, bushes that you have identified etc.
Be strict with what can wait - rocker covers can be done later when its back together - I know you'll have to take plenum off but that's not that difficult if you can work a spanner.
Have you done anything with the engine yet? V8 Racing Rob Robertson did me a great deal on a bottom end rebuild - PM me if you want to know what he did / cost.
I should really leave the rocker covers and be strict, you are correct. I just thought if it was the sort of job that was a lot easier to do whilst engine out and apart and if it didn't cost much then maybe i would do it...If you're on a limited budget do items that really are much more difficult with the body on, fuel and brake pipes, bushes that you have identified etc.
Be strict with what can wait - rocker covers can be done later when its back together - I know you'll have to take plenum off but that's not that difficult if you can work a spanner.
Have you done anything with the engine yet? V8 Racing Rob Robertson did me a great deal on a bottom end rebuild - PM me if you want to know what he did / cost.
No work started yet on engine, but planning on getting all work done by the same place (which has lots of engine rebuild experience) and just finalising details with them. Might PM you later anyway to see how costs compare.
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I should really leave the rocker covers and be strict, you are correct. I just thought if it was the sort of job that was a lot easier to do whilst engine out and apart and if it didn't cost much then maybe i would do it...
No work started yet on engine, but planning on getting all work done by the same place (which has lots of engine rebuild experience) and just finalising details with them. Might PM you later anyway to see how costs compare.
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Are they just an aluminium finish on the 450 like the 400, if so at minimal cost use a cup wire brush in the end of a grinder, some brasso or aluminium polish, and with a bit of patience they come up a treat.
same method for the plenum also [carefully remove the 450 badge first, glue back later]Chassis done (will upload rotten outrigger photos sometime), wishbones replaced, bushes changed, Engine went back in this morning! Another few days to rebuild then car should be finished next week! Can't wait to get it back and run in the new engine!
Edited by Timja on Wednesday 19th January 12:50
jonnyZ said:
Tim,
Just finished an engine rebuild so happy to help with any advise/costs and timescales.
Feel free to give me a call 01484 607937 or 07515 533307
Will post some pics later
Regards John
Hi John,Just finished an engine rebuild so happy to help with any advise/costs and timescales.
Feel free to give me a call 01484 607937 or 07515 533307
Will post some pics later
Regards John
Thanks for the offer for help, but didn't have the space to do a rebuild myself (no garage!) so got a garage to do the work along with lots of other bits and rebuilt engine went in on Wednesday!
Interested to see photos though if you have them!
Cheers
Tim
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