Selling a car to Australia....
Discussion
Since putting my car up for sale I've had quite a few enquiries from Australia, with people looking to export the car; I'm assuming this is due to the GBP being weak against the AUS?
Has anyone sold their car recently to the land down under? I'm obviously concerened about getting scammed!
Has anyone sold their car recently to the land down under? I'm obviously concerened about getting scammed!
Edited by matc on Friday 29th October 10:38
ZOLLAR said:
What do they say in the emails?, if it looks dodgy probably is.
Nothing dodgy in the e-mails, all look like genuine enquiries; offering to get the car inspected at my local Ferrari dealer, wanting to know service dates, clutch wear etc.I'm aware there is a large market for UK cars outside of the UK at the moment, so it doesn't bother me it going abroad, I would just like to know that I'm not going to get scammed along the way!
Sending a car down to AUS/NZ shouldn’t be a problem and in my experience can be a damn sight easier than selling to some people in the UK!
The key is plenty of communication with the buyer and offer a large number of photos at each stage of the process.
As there will be concerns over the transfer of money, I'd suggest using an established solicitor or Escro service . . . buyer pays solicitor, funds placed in their client account, car gets delivered to shipping agent, solicitor on either seeing the car being locked in the container or on receipt of a copy of the customs / shipping paperwork, releases the funds to you.
The key is plenty of communication with the buyer and offer a large number of photos at each stage of the process.
As there will be concerns over the transfer of money, I'd suggest using an established solicitor or Escro service . . . buyer pays solicitor, funds placed in their client account, car gets delivered to shipping agent, solicitor on either seeing the car being locked in the container or on receipt of a copy of the customs / shipping paperwork, releases the funds to you.
I assume it is your 360? Importing a car into Australia is a minefield, full of regulation (to protect the local car industry), and the enquirers probably are not aware of it. The car needs an Australian Compliance plate to register it so it can be driven on the road.
If the buyer is going to have the car owned by themselves, or someone else for 12 months in the UK, they can get it imported into Australia as a personal import.
As the 360 was offically imported into Australia, the company who does that (Ferrari Australa or whatever) is probably the only one in the country who are able to comply the car at the moment (if they are not going down the personal import route), and probably will not do it to stop the market getting flooded with grey imports, lowering the value of 2nd hand Australian delivered cars.
Anyhow, that is the buyers problem. If you get the cash out of them, then it is their problem trying to get it into the country/on the road in Oz. It is not the first time people have been stuck with a car they can't sell, and can't drive doing this before in that part of the world...
If the buyer is going to have the car owned by themselves, or someone else for 12 months in the UK, they can get it imported into Australia as a personal import.
As the 360 was offically imported into Australia, the company who does that (Ferrari Australa or whatever) is probably the only one in the country who are able to comply the car at the moment (if they are not going down the personal import route), and probably will not do it to stop the market getting flooded with grey imports, lowering the value of 2nd hand Australian delivered cars.
Anyhow, that is the buyers problem. If you get the cash out of them, then it is their problem trying to get it into the country/on the road in Oz. It is not the first time people have been stuck with a car they can't sell, and can't drive doing this before in that part of the world...
Edited by smack on Friday 29th October 11:00
AndrewW-G said:
Sending a car down to AUS/NZ shouldn’t be a problem and in my experience can be a damn sight easier than selling to some people in the UK!
The key is plenty of communication with the buyer and offer a large number of photos at each stage of the process.
As there will be concerns over the transfer of money, I'd suggest using an established solicitor or Escro service . . . buyer pays solicitor, funds placed in their client account, car gets delivered to shipping agent, solicitor on either seeing the car being locked in the container or on receipt of a copy of the customs / shipping paperwork, releases the funds to you.
That was my inital thought really; we send quite a few Mercedes abroad at the moment and they are usually a lot easier to deal with than most of our UK customers!The key is plenty of communication with the buyer and offer a large number of photos at each stage of the process.
As there will be concerns over the transfer of money, I'd suggest using an established solicitor or Escro service . . . buyer pays solicitor, funds placed in their client account, car gets delivered to shipping agent, solicitor on either seeing the car being locked in the container or on receipt of a copy of the customs / shipping paperwork, releases the funds to you.
They have all asked for more detailed photos etc. which isn't a problem.
The solicitor would be a good idea, I'm just dealing with a house purchase at the moment (hence selling the 360!) so I may ask the solicitor I'm dealing with there to help with it for me. Obviously if it gets that far!
smack said:
AndrewW-G said:
Sending a car down to AUS/NZ shouldn’t be a problem and in my experience can be a damn sight easier than selling to some people in the UK!
Importing a car into NZ is easy, Australia is a different ball game. Unless it is a classic car, where the rules are more open.AndrewW-G said:
Sending a car down to AUS/NZ shouldn’t be a problem and in my experience can be a damn sight easier than selling to some people in the UK!
The key is plenty of communication with the buyer and offer a large number of photos at each stage of the process.
As there will be concerns over the transfer of money, I'd suggest using an established solicitor or Escro service . . . buyer pays solicitor, funds placed in their client account, car gets delivered to shipping agent, solicitor on either seeing the car being locked in the container or on receipt of a copy of the customs / shipping paperwork, releases the funds to you.
My 308 went to Oz. No worries....the guy even transferred the money after inspection at a specialist...all the risk on his side....The key is plenty of communication with the buyer and offer a large number of photos at each stage of the process.
As there will be concerns over the transfer of money, I'd suggest using an established solicitor or Escro service . . . buyer pays solicitor, funds placed in their client account, car gets delivered to shipping agent, solicitor on either seeing the car being locked in the container or on receipt of a copy of the customs / shipping paperwork, releases the funds to you.
galt said:
I currently have my f430 Spider on the market. Does anyone have any advice on the best way to make sure Australian buyers see it? For example a good place to advertise in Australia?
I sold my 360 Spider to Australia in the end; it has been dealt with through a UK broker who is dealing with the Export on behalf of the Australian buyer. I had a fair amount of interest from Australian buyers by just advertising on PH.I spoke to the broker dealing with mine about 430's and he said that it was difficult trying to get them past all of the Aus regulations, so they were a no-go area at the moment.
smack said:
I assume it is your 360? Importing a car into Australia is a minefield, full of regulation (to protect the local car industry), and the enquirers probably are not aware of it. The car needs an Australian Compliance plate to register it so it can be driven on the road.
If the buyer is going to have the car owned by themselves, or someone else for 12 months in the UK, they can get it imported into Australia as a personal import.
As the 360 was offically imported into Australia, the company who does that (Ferrari Australa or whatever) is probably the only one in the country who are able to comply the car at the moment (if they are not going down the personal import route), and probably will not do it to stop the market getting flooded with grey imports, lowering the value of 2nd hand Australian delivered cars.
Anyhow, that is the buyers problem. If you get the cash out of them, then it is their problem trying to get it into the country/on the road in Oz. It is not the first time people have been stuck with a car they can't sell, and can't drive doing this before in that part of the world...
This.If the buyer is going to have the car owned by themselves, or someone else for 12 months in the UK, they can get it imported into Australia as a personal import.
As the 360 was offically imported into Australia, the company who does that (Ferrari Australa or whatever) is probably the only one in the country who are able to comply the car at the moment (if they are not going down the personal import route), and probably will not do it to stop the market getting flooded with grey imports, lowering the value of 2nd hand Australian delivered cars.
Anyhow, that is the buyers problem. If you get the cash out of them, then it is their problem trying to get it into the country/on the road in Oz. It is not the first time people have been stuck with a car they can't sell, and can't drive doing this before in that part of the world...
Edited by smack on Friday 29th October 11:00
Just make sure they have done their homework before progressing too far with a sale. There are plenty of people here with money, and would notice that such cars are relatively cheap in England, and think it's a good idea. The rules are very stringent, and vary state to state, and a lot of cars simply would NOT be allowed to be imported.
I am aware of cars which have been imported here then had to be sent back as they didn't meet the rules (re 12 month ownership and use before importing)
Edited by madazrx7 on Monday 8th November 07:13
galt said:
I currently have my f430 Spider on the market. Does anyone have any advice on the best way to make sure Australian buyers see it? For example a good place to advertise in Australia?
Try www.aussieexotics.com. The main trading site is www.carsales.com.au. You might also try advertising through the Ferrari Club magazine, Horsepower. The Australian section of Ferrarichat should be approached with extreme caution - there are some crazies there with almost no moderation happening.
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