Leaking behind both doors - help!
Leaking behind both doors - help!
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rickprice

Original Poster:

498 posts

269 months

Sunday 31st October 2010
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I have finally sussed where my leak is.

Behind both doors there is a small area of the roof velcro'd down. The bit that is attached to the body is riveted through with 3 small rivets inside and out, but does not appear to be otherwise attached (glue, sealant, etc.

Could someone tell me how this is supposed to be attached because today in the rain it was pretty much running in, explaining quite a lot...

Many thanks,

Rich



Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

210 months

Sunday 31st October 2010
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Its happening to mine also, so I'm watching this with great interest

chimalsu

279 posts

269 months

Monday 1st November 2010
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most leaks in this area are caused by missing elephant ears,(rubber ear like flaps glued into the outer most edge of the roof).if they are missing water can seep between the roof and the door.

rickprice

Original Poster:

498 posts

269 months

Monday 1st November 2010
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When I looked the other day in the pouring rain, this bit of velcro was only attached to the body with 3 rivets - no glue or sealant, etc.

It was my impression (though difficult to say) that it was seeping under the velcro. The uppermost part of the velcro was covered by the hood, but the rivets were on show.

I get the feeling I need to remove the velcro and re-attach it using silicone sealant underneath it, as well waterproofing the valcro itself.

Anybody got any other ideas?

Rich



centauro

17 posts

195 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Did you get any joy finding/sealing the leaks?

Rossco2010

133 posts

199 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Mine is in the shop for exaclty this leak, will post a note on what's done with it (and cost :-( )

centauro

17 posts

195 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Rossco2010 said:
Mine is in the shop for exaclty this leak, will post a note on what's done with it (and cost :-( )
I will eagerly await your response as I am fast running out of dry towels!!

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

210 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Im having to take my seat and carpets out this week and stuff news paper in this week, as its pissed down,

I should really clear my garage out idea

Rossco2010

133 posts

199 months

Thursday 25th November 2010
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Mine was diagnosed as hoop and door seals - easy job, seals push

One point definitely worth checking though - on new seals there are two long strips hanging down from hoop seals, between door and bodywork. Think these supposed to make sure water coming in the panel gap at the door opening is forced into the "gutter" of the door. Was missing on old ones ad was pissing in.

ralphy12345

330 posts

196 months

Friday 26th November 2010
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Rossco2010 said:
Mine was diagnosed as hoop and door seals - easy job, seals push

One point definitely worth checking though - on new seals there are two long strips hanging down from hoop seals, between door and bodywork. Think these supposed to make sure water coming in the panel gap at the door opening is forced into the "gutter" of the door. Was missing on old ones ad was pissing in.
May I ask where you got these from, please?

R


WOO5IE

967 posts

228 months

Friday 26th November 2010
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A common reason for it leaking in this area is an untreated roof.

For some reason if the roof hasnt been waterproffed for a while then the area just above the elephant ears seems to leak and drip down on the seat betls and make the floor very wet as well.

A quck treatment fixes it

I used Auto Glym Cabriolet treatment

philmccann

430 posts

231 months

Friday 26th November 2010
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Anybody got a photo of these "elephant ears"?????

Would be appreciated.

Cheers

Phil

Rossco2010

133 posts

199 months

Friday 26th November 2010
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ralphy12345 said:
Rossco2010 said:
Mine was diagnosed as hoop and door seals - easy job, seals push

One point definitely worth checking though - on new seals there are two long strips hanging down from hoop seals, between door and bodywork. Think these supposed to make sure water coming in the panel gap at the door opening is forced into the "gutter" of the door. Was missing on old ones ad was pissing in.
May I ask where you got these from, please?

R
Yep - got a bit for odd jobs from here:

http://www.thetvrshop.com

Edited by Rossco2010 on Saturday 27th November 17:18

SILICONE KID

14,997 posts

262 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Are they African or Indian elephant earslaugh

saxmund

364 posts

266 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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I would agree with W0051E, the first step is to re-proof the roof. Buy a large can of Fabsil from your local camping shop and paint on generously (I always proof the targa as well as the folding bit, not sure if this is necessary or not).

The problem seems to be that when water runs off the roof it is channelled behind the doors, so this bit of canvas gets more water across it than any other part of the roof.

For reattaching the velcro and/or the flappy bit of canvas that goes inside, I would recommend stitching (which is how the original was done), you will need an awl, blunt leather-sewing needles (saddlers needles) and stout linen thread. A bit fiddly but quite easy to do.

rickprice

Original Poster:

498 posts

269 months

Monday 29th November 2010
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Well the guys at Offord had a look and said the hood needed re-proofing. I have only just proofed it with Renovo (in spring), so this is disappointing.

Currently she is hidden from the snow by a cover and so the waterproofing will have to wait.


Rich


debaron

878 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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Renovo itself is just a colour restorer AFAIK. You would still need to bung ideally 2 coats of Fabsil etc on to get decent waterproofing.

Chimpafrolic

9,637 posts

210 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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debaron said:
Renovo itself is just a colour restorer AFAIK. You would still need to bung ideally 2 coats of Fabsil etc on to get decent waterproofing.
Not so, Renovo sell a range of products that are designed to work together to completely renovate your hood.

1) Cleaner for preparation

2) Colour restorer

3) Waterproofer

Used correctly in that order and the three products transform a faded & leaking hood.

I have used the full kit and it works fantastically well, the hood looks almost new with a nice dark black colour, water beads up and just rolls off.

You could of cause just use the waterproofer to solve a leak but the full kit gives such good results for not much more money I would be tempted to do all three steps.

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Tuesday 30th November 2010
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From personal experience the Renovo proofer is a waste of time, it doesn't last very long at all. You only have to clean & re-colour very occasionally with Renovo, but Fabsil is fine at proofing if you just give a good rinse with clean water beforehand.

You should use waxed thread IIRC, even though the velcro overlaps water can saturate upwards behind the hood. Frosts used to sell an awl & thread kit - also great for velcroing carpets BTW (if you want to do lightweight hardcore jaunts every now & again..)

Jon Brown

681 posts

215 months

Wednesday 8th December 2010
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These elephant ears, would they be like a rounded L shape by chance?

My roof leaks, which i need to sort out and I found one on the above under the drivers seat the other day. Also my velcro has come completely away from the body which Im sure is one of the reasons for the leak.

So what I think i need to do, if someone could confirm this it would be really helpful

1. Re glue velcro back to the body
2. find where the elephant ears are supposed to go (a picture would be great) and re attach/glue?
3. Reseal the roof with Fabriseal

Any help would be greatly appreciated