A question for PH Dentists

A question for PH Dentists

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Ozone

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3,046 posts

188 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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My dentist has recommended that i have a gum clean (Chronic Perio?). I have been told i will need anasthetic.
I have never had this done before, just the usual scrape and clean.
I don't mind going to the dentist but i hate pain - am i going to feel like my mouth has been raped by a barbed fence post when the drugs have worn off?

PintOfKittens

1,336 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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IIRC it wont hurt MUCH afterwards - it will be a bit sore and bleeding, but wont be that painful - its the actual cleaning bit thats fking painful

Whenever I goto Poland with the missus I get my teeth done there. WAY better than UK dentists.

ShadownINja

76,469 posts

283 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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It's when they shoot a tiny jet of water isn't it? It hurts so much it made me laugh but it's not worth doing anaesthetic... never been offered it for that.

Ozone

Original Poster:

3,046 posts

188 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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PintOfKittens said:
its the actual cleaning bit thats fking painful
Definately anasthetic for me then. I can see me ripping the arms off the chair otherwise hehe

ShadownINja

76,469 posts

283 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Ozone said:
PintOfKittens said:
its the actual cleaning bit thats fking painful
Definately anasthetic for me then. I can see me ripping the arms off the chair otherwise hehe
Don't worry. You won't.










They're very strong. evil

PintOfKittens

1,336 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Ozone said:
PintOfKittens said:
its the actual cleaning bit thats fking painful
Definately anasthetic for me then. I can see me ripping the arms off the chair otherwise hehe
Take it like a man! Iv had 3 fillings without anesthetic, and 2 root canals without anesthetic.

Nothing todo with the fact that I need 3x the doseage of anesthetic to work, my body dosent respond well to it

Edited by PintOfKittens on Wednesday 3rd November 09:57

Cactussed

5,292 posts

214 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Really? Have you tried flossing regularly (ie, twice a day) for a month?
Your gumes will bleed a lot initially, but they will improve rapidly.

As an aside, EVERYONE on here should be flossing regularly. Keeps gums and teeth healthy and significantly lowers bad breath. Just fyi.

Next time you go to kiss someone who doesn't floss, you can have the mental picture of licking the corner of a compost bin...

MacGee

2,513 posts

231 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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PintOfKittens said:
Ozone said:
PintOfKittens said:
its the actual cleaning bit thats fking painful
Definately anasthetic for me then. I can see me ripping the arms off the chair otherwise hehe
Take it like a man! Iv had 3 fillings without anesthetic, and 2 root canals without anesthetic.

Nothing todo with the fact that I need 3x the doseage of anesthetic to work, my body dosent respond well to it

Edited by PintOfKittens on Wednesday 3rd November 09:57
bet the root canals where on dead teeth....no ones that brave. I've only ever had one person in 25 yrs refuse local for this..
deep scaling needs local too...otherwise not done properly.
Polish dentists are not better than British..I've witnessed their work.

PintOfKittens

1,336 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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MacGee said:
PintOfKittens said:
Ozone said:
PintOfKittens said:
its the actual cleaning bit thats fking painful
Definately anasthetic for me then. I can see me ripping the arms off the chair otherwise hehe
Take it like a man! Iv had 3 fillings without anesthetic, and 2 root canals without anesthetic.

Nothing todo with the fact that I need 3x the doseage of anesthetic to work, my body dosent respond well to it

Edited by PintOfKittens on Wednesday 3rd November 09:57
bet the root canals where on dead teeth....no ones that brave. I've only ever had one person in 25 yrs refuse local for this..
deep scaling needs local too...otherwise not done properly.
Polish dentists are not better than British..I've witnessed their work.
No the root canals were done after 6 rounds of injections, it got to the point where my mouth was killing me just from the injections, so went ahead with root canal.

Iv witnessed both british and polish dentist's work - no mercury fillings in poland (or anywhere else in europe for that matter), no charging 80 fking quid to have a look at a tooth, no charging 30 quid for a £1.25 xray, no "Im gunna have to pull the tooth out", trying to pull it out, it getting stuck half way then sending me out the door with the tooth half sticking out of my mouth with a handwritten note to goto A&E because he had other patients, no "Im gunna drill a bit now, come back next week, drill a bit then, come back the week after, and the week after" st - Spent 4 months, week after week, getting ONE filling done, no waiting 6 months on a waiting list to see a dentist.


Ozone

Original Poster:

3,046 posts

188 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Cactussed said:
Really? Have you tried flossing regularly (ie, twice a day) for a month?
Your gumes will bleed a lot initially, but they will improve rapidly.

As an aside, EVERYONE on here should be flossing regularly. Keeps gums and teeth healthy and significantly lowers bad breath. Just fyi.

Next time you go to kiss someone who doesn't floss, you can have the mental picture of licking the corner of a compost bin...
Yes, just as i told my dentist - everyday - honest biggrinangelwink

It might explain why my dads dog keels over when i breath on him...hehe

PintOfKittens said:
I need 3x the doseage of anesthetic to work, my body dosent respond well to it
So do i strangely. Then by the time i get home i can't feel my head!!laugh

Edited by Ozone on Wednesday 3rd November 11:08

ShadownINja

76,469 posts

283 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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PintOfKittens said:
stuff
Jesus. Sounds like you have had awful dentists. Mine have been great. And hot.

Rach*

8,824 posts

217 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Is your dentist doing it themselves?


When I treat a patient for chronic perio......

The most important thing is: You!
Your home care regime, making sure you keep your teeth absolutely spotless in between appointments, checking your plaque control techniques. Otherwise debridement is pretty much pointless.


I use local about 80% of the time, some people would rather not. Middle-aged men have the lowest pain threshold IMO, so they get enough to perform a lobotomy tongue out


Might ache a bit after treatment, usual headache painkllers are enough to control.




Shaw Tarse

31,544 posts

204 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Rach* said:
I Middle-aged men have the lowest pain threshold IMO
Rubbish, we can go to work suffering from flu, and if we got a bit of belly ache once a month we wouldn't complain

MacGee

2,513 posts

231 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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PintOfKittens said:
MacGee said:
PintOfKittens said:
Ozone said:
PintOfKittens said:
its the actual cleaning bit thats fking painful
Definately anasthetic for me then. I can see me ripping the arms off the chair otherwise hehe
Take it like a man! Iv had 3 fillings without anesthetic, and 2 root canals without anesthetic.

Nothing todo with the fact that I need 3x the doseage of anesthetic to work, my body dosent respond well to it

Edited by PintOfKittens on Wednesday 3rd November 09:57
bet the root canals where on dead teeth....no ones that brave. I've only ever had one person in 25 yrs refuse local for this..
deep scaling needs local too...otherwise not done properly.
Polish dentists are not better than British..I've witnessed their work.
No the root canals were done after 6 rounds of injections, it got to the point where my mouth was killing me just from the injections, so went ahead with root canal.

Iv witnessed both british and polish dentist's work - no mercury fillings in poland (or anywhere else in europe for that matter), no charging 80 fking quid to have a look at a tooth, no charging 30 quid for a £1.25 xray, no "Im gunna have to pull the tooth out", trying to pull it out, it getting stuck half way then sending me out the door with the tooth half sticking out of my mouth with a handwritten note to goto A&E because he had other patients, no "Im gunna drill a bit now, come back next week, drill a bit then, come back the week after, and the week after" st - Spent 4 months, week after week, getting ONE filling done, no waiting 6 months on a waiting list to see a dentist.
Oh dear...not a happy bunny. You've had some bad experiences..not the rule (I hope). If you've seen mercuty fillings and polish dental work..unless you are in the business..to be honest..you dont know what you're looking for to state quality.

Rach*

8,824 posts

217 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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hehe

MacGee

2,513 posts

231 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Rach* said:
Is your dentist doing it themselves?


When I treat a patient for chronic perio......

The most important thing is: You!
Your home care regime, making sure you keep your teeth absolutely spotless in between appointments, checking your plaque control techniques. Otherwise debridement is pretty much pointless.


I use local about 80% of the time, some people would rather not. Middle-aged men have the lowest pain threshold IMO, so they get enough to perform a lobotomy tongue out


Might ache a bit after treatment, usual headache painkllers are enough to control.
agree Rach...specia;ists reckon you cant do chronic perio without local...100%...unless you're tough like bloke above!!!!

MacGee

2,513 posts

231 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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British Dentistry....not that bad really.

BTW...The Poles dont have to pay our wages/rent/insurance/registratuins/CQC/htm-01-05/indemnity/materials prices/etc....God our costs are bloody massive.

Rach*

8,824 posts

217 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Phil Ower says he never uses LA and doesn't advocate hyg's using it either.

He spends up to 18 months getting the oral hygiene perfect though, doesn't pick up a scaler, which sees pretty much most pocketing resolve anyway.




I think it was Bernie Keiser who wrote a paper concluding that sub debridement is un-necessary, that 100% perfect OH is enough to treat and control perio, I would agree with that.
Luckliy compliance isn't that good in practice so I keep my job hehe


MacGee

2,513 posts

231 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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2 guys I know doing post grad masters in restor/perio...have told me of their tutors teachong..as above. I'm no specialist but just pick up info from friends and courses...perio is your game!

littlegreenfairy

10,134 posts

222 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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So how do you clean your teeth properly then?

I'm not entirely sure I've ever been taught, but what I do seems to work.

O/T I went to see an emergency dentist as I'd chipped the corner of a tooth off and was shredding my tongue to bits. She thought I was amazingly brave to not have an local whilst having it fixed. I didn't have the heart to tell her I have no feeling in the tooth tongue out