Oak Front Door

[JohnRS4]

Am looking at sprnding no more than £600 if possible on a decent Oak Front door. Is this realistic? Any suggestions of where to look. Am based in Surrey.

[Paulbav]

I think you may be a bit tight on that budget, had one made recently with full height lights either side and that came to £1200 iirc unglazed and not fitted but that was using a chap who is a family friend so possibly a bit of discount and French Oak which is a bit more pricy than the American Oak that is often used so it may equal out. I would highly recommend the chap who made it, he is based in Fontwell West Sussex so not a million miles away and is without a doubt a true perfectionist and craftsman, completly built to my design although fairly standard I just added a bottom rail, window and dropped frame height for the lights but it is alot better than other doors I have seen. Not cheap but has really made the property look great so worth every penny.

Give me a shout if you want his details

Paul

Edited by Paulbav on Wednesday 3rd November 13:35

Edited by Paulbav on Wednesday 3rd November 13:36

[satans worm]

http://www.ukoakdoors.co.uk/oxbow-external-door-80...

Is what we have, you just need to add glass (we had a piece of stained glass made up for it).

[JABB]

quote=JohnRS4]Am looking at sprnding no more than £600 if possible on a decent Oak Front door. Is this realistic? Any suggestions of where to look. Am based in Surrey.
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Our solid Oak external doors came indirectly from Howdens.
J B Kind also do doors.
If it is a cabinet shop bespoke door, you may struggle.
Honestly, check out Ebay. There are a couple of guys on there making bespoke and working in cheaper areas of the country ( South Wales and somewhere up north from memory ) I would have used one of them, if it wasn't for ebay and a local builder disposing of some doors, cheaply!.

[JustinP1]

JohnRS4 said:

Am looking at sprnding no more than £600 if possible on a decent Oak Front door. Is this realistic? Any suggestions of where to look. Am based in Surrey.

If you don't mind engineered - non-warping and a decent veneer, you can get change from £200.

The one we got from B&Q was so good our joiner went out and bought two of the same one for his own house.

[ChrisnChris]

JustinP1 said:

veneer

I don't think that will be suitable for an external door, do you?

OP I have a furniture workshop near Farnham.
Happy to price if you want to send me the details.

Chris

[anonymous-user]

I can recommend this lot: http://www.distinctivedoors.co.uk/

[JustinP1]

ChrisnChris said:

JustinP1 said:

veneer

I don't think that will be suitable for an external door, do you?

Yes, I do actually. And B&Q do too:

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detai...

Edited by JustinP1 on Wednesday 3rd November 19:14

[Spudler]

JohnRS4 said:

no more than £600 on a decent Oak Front door. Is this realistic? Any suggestions of where to look.

Yes it is, if you know someone with a Magnet trade Account.
Best, in terms of quality and value, item i've ever bought from them.
If you know someone i'll dig out the cat number for you.

[ChrisnChris]

JustinP1 said:

ChrisnChris said:

JustinP1 said:

veneer

I don't think that will be suitable for an external door, do you?

Yes, I do actually. And B&Q do too:

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detai...

Edited by JustinP1 on Wednesday 3rd November 19:14

Ok but the first sign of the veneer cracking & if you get moisture ingress, the veneer will de-laminate from the core material. That will be a mess.
Take a look at oak doors in churches or any "old" building, how many are veneered? These doors have survived for hundreds of years.
I see that B&Q offer a 5 year guarantee......you pays your money......

Just my opinion.

[JustinP1]

ChrisnChris said:

JustinP1 said:

ChrisnChris said:

JustinP1 said:

veneer

I don't think that will be suitable for an external door, do you?

Yes, I do actually. And B&Q do too:

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detai...

Edited by JustinP1 on Wednesday 3rd November 19:14

Ok but the first sign of the veneer cracking & if you get moisture ingress, the veneer will de-laminate from the core material. That will be a mess.
Take a look at oak doors in churches or any "old" building, how many are veneered? These doors have survived for hundreds of years.
I see that B&Q offer a 5 year guarantee......you pays your money......

Just my opinion.

I quite agree they have been there for hundreds of years, but then so have the solid stone walls too - that doesn't mean a house made of brick and mortar does not do the same job at a fraction of the cost for the downside of being slightly less long-lasting in terms of numbers of generations.

However, properly sealed the veneered door will do exactly the same job.

If the water ingress was bad enough to affect the engineered door, then the solid oak door isn't going to be perfect either - it will still let in water and warp.

I should add that the veneer on these are pretty thick - as I said the quality was so good that it was impossible to tell it was not just engineered oak. So good in fact, a joiner of 25 years experience was so impressed he went out and bought two for his own house.

[ChrisnChris]

JustinP1 said:

I quite agree they have been there for hundreds of years, but then so have the solid stone walls

So now you compare with stone
Ok you win
bye

[JustinP1]

ChrisnChris said:

JustinP1 said:

I quite agree they have been there for hundreds of years, but then so have the solid stone walls

So now you compare with stone
Ok you win
bye

It was you who openly rubbished my own and B&Q's veneered doors in order to tout for your own business.

I just assumed that you may be able to take in the whole of one sentence as oppose to half and be able to compare the veneered oak and solid oak and the price/durability simile with brick and stone.

It may be more convincing if you are touting for business to entertain sensible comparison rather than throwing your toys out of your pram...?

Edited by JustinP1 on Wednesday 3rd November 22:33

[CO2000]

Are you aware of composite doors ?

I went down this route after initially looking at solid & then engineered ones.

[JohnRS4]

My wife likes the look of the Windermere in this link http://jbkind.com/productdetails.asp?parent=299

By composite I assume you meane UPVC based composite. If so spoke to the guy where we are getting our UPVC windows from and he said get an Oak one which put us off a composite one. Any thoughts on composite doors?

[CO2000]

JohnRS4 said:

My wife likes the look of the Windermere in this link http://jbkind.com/productdetails.asp?parent=299

By composite I assume you meane UPVC based composite. If so spoke to the guy where we are getting our UPVC windows from and he said get an Oak one which put us off a composite one. Any thoughts on composite doors?

Strange because they are more solid/look better than the straight UPVC ones which I presume he would sell ?

Ours was about £1200 fitted with a fan light but did have quotes going up to 2k
The better ones are pretty thick approx 70-80mm if I remember correctly.

[ChrisnChris]

http://jbkind.com/productdetails.asp?parent=299

Interesting caveat

"Only suitable for fully sheltered conditions."

[JohnRS4]

ChrisnChris said:

http://jbkind.com/productdetails.asp?parent=299

Interesting caveat

"Only suitable for fully sheltered conditions."

I noticed that although it will be under cover in an open porch. I will send you the details and see what you can do