Toyota Recall #16
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nsmith1180

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3,941 posts

201 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Tired of feeling sorry for Toyota, who appear to have bought it all on themselves, I lol'd when this little tidbit dropped into my inbox:

Toyota (UK) have issued another recall, bringing the 2010 tally upto 16 recalls and over 12 MILLION units. This one affects the IQ and is voluntary. The rumble strips at the side of the road can cause the power steering system to shut down and owners are requested to take their vehicles to the local toyota center.............. you know the drill.

Put short: 12000 IQs in the UK, 2 hours a car for a software update means big bill for Toyota.

They say that its caused by a problem noticed in Japan and no cases in the UK. So I ask myself, how many IQs built between 11/09/2008 & 22/10/2010?? Because the recall will affect them all!

DannyVTS

7,543 posts

191 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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no one cares

eta: perhaps i'm being blunt, i'm fedup of the media picking on Toyota!

Recalls happen all the time, you know this right?

Edited by DannyVTS on Thursday 4th November 13:30


Edited by DannyVTS on Thursday 4th November 13:30

Bill

57,246 posts

278 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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nsmith1180 said:
Tired of feeling sorry for Toyota, who appear to have bought it all on themselves, I lol'd when this little tidbit dropped into my inbox:
It's amazing how Toyota's recalls get so much publicity, you'd think someone had something to gain....

fatboy b

9,662 posts

239 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Maybe it's a new Toyota ploy. Loads of recalls, and sooner or later the press will get bored.

nsmith1180

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Thursday 4th November 2010
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As i said last recall, they issue a press release and expect the press not to run it?

If you expect that too, you need to wake up and smell the coffee.

12,000,000 units over 16 recalls in one year is too much. The deserve everything they get, thats not a mistake, thats not being let down by a competitor, thats just careless, they got too focused on profit and didn't look at what they were doing.

kambites

70,723 posts

244 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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nsmith1180 said:
12,000,000 units over 16 recalls in one year is too much. The deserve everything they get, thats not a mistake, thats not being let down by a competitor, thats just careless, they got too focused on profit and didn't look at what they were doing.
Do you have any figures from their competitors to compare it to?

Bill

57,246 posts

278 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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kambites said:
nsmith1180 said:
12,000,000 units over 16 recalls in one year is too much. The deserve everything they get, thats not a mistake, thats not being let down by a competitor, thats just careless, they got too focused on profit and didn't look at what they were doing.
Do you have any figures from their competitors to compare it to?
Precisely.

Where did the original emal come from? Viral email or mainstream press?

Have a look here: http://www.warrantyguide.co.uk/Vehicle-Recalls-BMW and compare BMW to Toyota, or Vauxhall or Ford or Citroen. Or Volvo, of all makers....

Now ask yourself who has a big US market and a reputation for reliability...

homerjay

1,249 posts

248 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Bill said:
kambites said:
nsmith1180 said:
12,000,000 units over 16 recalls in one year is too much. The deserve everything they get, thats not a mistake, thats not being let down by a competitor, thats just careless, they got too focused on profit and didn't look at what they were doing.
Do you have any figures from their competitors to compare it to?
Precisely.

Where did the original emal come from? Viral email or mainstream press?

Have a look here: http://www.warrantyguide.co.uk/Vehicle-Recalls-BMW and compare BMW to Toyota, or Vauxhall or Ford or Citroen. Or Volvo, of all makers....

Now ask yourself who has a big US market and a reputation for reliability...
look at citroen and merc!

saab only has 2. but they not little things.

Edited by homerjay on Thursday 4th November 14:37

Bill

57,246 posts

278 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Those and Volvo make interesting readingeek

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

213 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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My old motorcycle was Triumph that was fitted with a plastic fuel clip, that in theory could have snapped and pissed fuel on the hot engine.

It was recalled. It was fixed. No-one died.

No-one apart from a few hundred owners even gave a st.

A911DOM

4,084 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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As I recently advised Renault:

'Its about time you (Renault) started behaving more responsibly (like Toyota) and recalling and repairing clear design failures and component faults'.

I say fair play to Toyota, they have identified a design flaw and it needs doing, so the job is done. No question of covering up or playing down, just got on with it and fixed it.

Has it put anyone off buying a Toyota? Personally it gives me more confidence that they will stand by their product and regardless of cost and time, will honour their commitment to building reliable cars. Not very exciting, but confidence inspiring IMO.


nsmith1180

Original Poster:

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201 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Bill said:
kambites said:
nsmith1180 said:
12,000,000 units over 16 recalls in one year is too much. The deserve everything they get, thats not a mistake, thats not being let down by a competitor, thats just careless, they got too focused on profit and didn't look at what they were doing.
Do you have any figures from their competitors to compare it to?
Precisely.

Where did the original emal come from? Viral email or mainstream press?

Have a look here: http://www.warrantyguide.co.uk/Vehicle-Recalls-BMW and compare BMW to Toyota, or Vauxhall or Ford or Citroen. Or Volvo, of all makers....

Now ask yourself who has a big US market and a reputation for reliability...
BMW 12 recalls in three years.

Toyota 16 recalls in eleven MONTHS.

Bill

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278 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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nsmith1180 said:
Toyota 16 recalls in eleven MONTHS.
Where does this figure come from?

http://www.warrantyguide.co.uk/Vehicle-Recalls-TOY...

That's 10 in 3 years, vs BM's 12...

nsmith1180

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Thursday 4th November 2010
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Bill said:
nsmith1180 said:
Toyota 16 recalls in eleven MONTHS.
Where does this figure come from?

http://www.warrantyguide.co.uk/Vehicle-Recalls-TOY...

That's 10 in 3 years, vs BM's 12...
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

Reported 14 recalls in 2010, I contested that in the comments topic, the previous recall had been #14 which even if PH's figures are right, and mine wrong means 15 recalls in 11 months.

Bill

57,246 posts

278 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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So my link's wrong thenirked Unless it's just UK recalls.

nsmith1180

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Thursday 4th November 2010
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Bill said:
So my link's wrong thenirked Unless it's just UK recalls.
I would think that is true. Your link only shows five recalls in 2010.

E30M3SE

8,484 posts

219 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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A more accurate site for recalls.

Edited by E30M3SE on Thursday 4th November 16:15

Bill

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278 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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I found the VOSA site and the AA but they're model by model and I CBA totting them upbiggrin

E30M3SE

8,484 posts

219 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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Leave the 'model' blank and enter the 'manufacturer' and dates and it brings them all up.

TotalControl

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221 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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nsmith1180 said:
Bill said:
So my link's wrong thenirked Unless it's just UK recalls.
I would think that is true. Your link only shows five recalls in 2010.
Mercs are in the lead there with 20, unless someone can beat that?